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From: Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@suse.de>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@suse.de>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Tigran Aivazian <tigran@aivazian.fsnet.co.uk>,
	Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
Subject: Re: add devname module aliases to allow module on-demand auto-loading
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 19:09:28 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201005211909.29326.knikanth@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinQwEqFKAiyAwVPwmzLtUXJkaOdZ0c88O_tfp-1@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday 21 May 2010 18:41:38 Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 13:51, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 13:34, Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is no harm to make a well-know device node static, it just
> > solves a lot of problems, and also makes it possible to work off of a
> > static /dev.
> 
> To illustrate:
> 
> On my box without this patch:
>   dmsetup version
>   Library version:   1.02.42 (2010-01-14)
>   /proc/misc: No entry for device-mapper found
>   Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel?
>   Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver.
> 
> And the same box just with this patch, nothing else changed:
>   dmsetup version
>   Library version:   1.02.42 (2010-01-14)
>   Driver version:    4.17.0
> 
> But its up to you to care if device-mapper just works, or if there is
> stuff like an init script with modprobe needed to load stuff that
> might never be needed. :)
>

If this is needed, the dmsetup itself can do a `modprobe dm` instead of 
printing the message, "Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel?"?

> This is surely not about dynamic vs. static, it is about race-free
> on-demand activation of services and subsystems.
> 

Loading dm-mod alone is enough for `dmsetup version`. But for other operations 
dm-mod may not be enough, as various other modules like dm-crypt, dm-
mirror,... would also be required, depending on the dm table, which may or may 
not be installed.

Thanks
Nikanth

> Thanks,
> Kay
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-21 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-20 16:07 add devname module aliases to allow module on-demand auto-loading Kay Sievers
2010-05-21 11:11 ` Ian Kent
2010-05-21 11:24   ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-21 15:15     ` Greg KH
2010-05-21 11:34 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2010-05-21 11:51   ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-21 13:11     ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-21 13:39       ` Nikanth Karthikesan [this message]
2010-05-21 13:55         ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-21 18:23           ` Alasdair G Kergon
2010-05-21 18:51             ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-21 19:32               ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2010-05-21 20:20                 ` Kay Sievers
2010-05-25  5:33               ` Luca Berra
2010-05-25  9:48                 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2010-05-25  9:57                   ` Kay Sievers

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