From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] pipe: add support for shrinking and growing pipes
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:04:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100524070416.GQ23411@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87632e846m.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp>
On Mon, May 24 2010, OGAWA Hirofumi wrote:
> Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com> writes:
>
> >> > We can easily make F_GETPIPE_SZ return bytes, but I don't think passing
> >> > in bytes to F_SETPIPE_SZ makes a lot of sense. The pipe array must be a
> >> > power of 2 in pages. So the question is if that makes the API cleaner,
> >> > passing in number of pages but returning bytes? Or pass in bytes all
> >> > around, but have F_SETPIPE_SZ round to the nearest multiple of pow2 in
> >> > pages if need be. Then it would return a size at least what was passed
> >> > in, or error.
>
> I really think "power of 2 in pages" is simply current implementation
> detail, not detail of pipe API.
Completely agree, one more reason more to make that dependency exposed
in the API.
> >> I'd recommend this: Pass it in and out in bytes. Don't round to a
> >> power of 2. Require the user to know what they are doing. Give an
> >> error if the user doesn't supply a power-of-2 * page-size for
> >> F_SETPIPE_SZ. (Again, consider the case of architectures with
> >> switchable page sizes.)
> >
> > But is there much point in erroring on an incorrect size? If the
> > application says "I need at least 120kb of space in there", kernel
> > returns "OK, you got 128kb". Would returning -1/EINVAL for that case
> > really make a better API? Doesn't seem like it to me.
>
> FWIW, my first impression of this was setsockopt(SO_RCV/SNDBUF) of unix
> socket. Well, API itself wouldn't say "at least this size" or "exactly
> this size", so, in here, important thing is consistency of interfaces, I
> think. (And the both is sane API at least for me if those had
> consistency in the system.)
>
> Well, so how about set/get in bytes, and kernel will set "at least
> specified size" actually like setsockopt(SO_RCV/SNDBUF)?
Isn't that pretty much what I described?
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-24 7:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-19 16:45 [patch] pipe: add support for shrinking and growing pipes Miklos Szeredi
2010-05-19 16:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-19 18:05 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-19 19:05 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-20 8:33 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-05-20 8:37 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-20 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-20 17:48 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-21 17:13 ` Rick Sherm
2010-05-23 5:30 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-23 2:38 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-23 5:52 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-23 7:09 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-23 9:24 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-23 17:47 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-24 1:43 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-05-24 4:43 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 7:05 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-24 7:27 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 17:35 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-24 17:52 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 17:56 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-25 4:01 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-01 7:48 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-01 15:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-01 16:36 ` Loke, Chetan
2010-05-27 6:49 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-01 7:45 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-02 19:25 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 6:10 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-03 6:46 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 7:01 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-03 7:05 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 7:48 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 7:58 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 8:29 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 8:53 ` Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <4C07862D.4090709@fusionio.com>
[not found] ` <AANLkTincO5thcP-yASUtIV41TtY3ZmG9YSU-J5nT2sFg@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-03 11:11 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <4C078610.6020901@fusionio.com>
[not found] ` <AANLkTinhO5oRDPXyXaeAOZU3i55eBKsx4iFMOzwm98na@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <AANLkTin_8MU3AbJ_KeXr2uTxtRFJ5ABmBAyigU6m-C6u@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-03 11:12 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-03 11:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-06-03 11:37 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-03 12:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-06-03 12:50 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-19 5:45 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-19 18:13 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-20 5:37 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-06-03 16:06 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-05-24 7:04 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2010-05-24 7:28 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 7:49 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-05-24 14:51 ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-05-24 15:43 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-24 7:46 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-05-24 17:15 ` Jens Axboe
2010-05-24 18:12 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2010-05-24 18:16 ` Michael Kerrisk
2010-05-20 12:52 ` Andi Kleen
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