From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756553Ab0E0Gv3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 May 2010 02:51:29 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:36200 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754176Ab0E0Gv1 (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 May 2010 02:51:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 23:51:07 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: piotr@hosowicz.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe , Divyesh Shah Subject: Re: BUG: using smp_processor_id() in preemptible [00000000] code: icedove-bin/5449 Message-Id: <20100526235107.77e66ce0.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <1274942798.27810.3584.camel@twins> References: <4BF9EC69.5030709@example.com> <1274777422.5882.591.camel@twins> <20100526160252.325f8357.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <1274942798.27810.3584.camel@twins> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.18.9; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 27 May 2010 08:46:38 +0200 Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 16:02 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > How is anyone supposed to use this? What are the semantics of this > > thing? What are the units of its return value? What is the base value > > of its return value? Does it return different times on different CPUs? > > I assume so, otherwise why does sched_clock_cpu() exist? > the sched_clock_cpu() documentation, collapses in giggles> > > The point of the whole sched_clock_cpu() thing is to provide a fairly > high resolution clock with bounded drift between cpus. > > It also promises to be monotonic per cpu argument, that is, > sched_clock_cpu(j) will, for a constant j always return a monotonic > increasing timestamp. > > It doesn't make much promises about its base (although people tend to > want it to start at 0 on boot, but the users really shouldn't care). > > sched_clock() doesn't promise either bounded drift between cpus nor > monotonicity. > OK, well please document these subtleties things in a very obvious place. Right now the code is a landmine. Some poor innocent drivers/foo/ developer can use them and add fantastically subtle once-per-million-machine-year lockup-causing bugs which he'll never be able to diagnose.