From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933094Ab0E0FOi (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 May 2010 01:14:38 -0400 Received: from ist.d-labs.de ([213.239.218.44]:48002 "EHLO mx01.d-labs.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932551Ab0E0FOf (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 May 2010 01:14:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 07:14:29 +0200 From: Florian Mickler To: Alan Cox Cc: Thomas Gleixner , Vitaly Wool , Peter Zijlstra , LKML , felipe.balbi@nokia.com, Linux OMAP Mailing List , Linux PM Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8) Message-ID: <20100527071429.58fa81ac@schatten.dmk.lab> In-Reply-To: <20100526230943.6f5e5b37@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> References: <20100526171106.0e44a736@schatten.dmk.lab> <20100526215409.33296d94@schatten.dmk.lab> <20100526230943.6f5e5b37@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 26 May 2010 23:09:43 +0100 Alan Cox wrote: > We now have suggestions how to do the job properly so the right thing is > probably to go and explore those suggestions not merge crap. > > Merging crap won't help anyway. The rest of the kernel community can > still simply stonewall those interfaces, and a volunteer community has > ways of dealing with abuse of process, notably by simply not getting > around to, or implementing things directly contrary to the crap bits. > > So it's not even in the interest of people to play political games. Even > if you get away with in the short term the people who rely on the junk > will end up out on a limb and holding the baby when the crap hits the fan > (see reiserfs) > > Alan I'm not interested in "abusing processes". I just think, this is in limbo for too long already. Just decide something. One way or the other. The world will continue. Cheers, Flo