From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756325Ab0E1Llp (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 May 2010 07:41:45 -0400 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:53697 "EHLO cavan.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754527Ab0E1Llo (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 May 2010 07:41:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:41:23 +0100 From: Matthew Garrett To: Alan Cox Cc: tytso@mit.edu, Alan Stern , Thomas Gleixner , Peter Zijlstra , LKML , Florian Mickler , felipe.balbi@nokia.com, Linux OMAP Mailing List , Linux PM Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8) Message-ID: <20100528114123.GA22947@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20100527222514.0a1710bf@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20100527230806.4deb6de3@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20100527220949.GB10602@srcf.ucam.org> <20100527232357.6d14fdb2@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20100527223605.GB11364@srcf.ucam.org> <20100527235546.09f3ce8a@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20100528043114.GC26177@thunk.org> <20100528103713.0a7952d9@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100528103713.0a7952d9@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:37:13AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > The other vendors appear to be managing nicely without magic blockers. I > conjecture therefore there are other solutions. Actually, no. A badly behaved application will kill the N900's battery life. Nobody else has "managed nicely" - they've just made life harder for application developers and users, which may have something to do with the relative levels of market adoption of Maemo and Android. I'm not aware of any form of resource management framework in MeeGo either, so as far as I know it'll have exactly the same problem. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org