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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Brandon Philips <brandon@ifup.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] module: fix bne2 "gave up waiting for init of module libcrc32c"
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 14:49:50 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201006011449.51587.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005312024320.3637@i5.linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 01:10:36 pm Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Rusty Russell wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 05:45:37 am Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > 
> > > basically, we should do the whole module dependency list regardless 
> > > of whether we can unload modules or not 
> > 
> > Why?
> 
> Because the current non-CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD code is currently broken, and 
> it was broken exactly because the code had two totally different paths and 
> totally different logic. And one part simply missed the case.
> 
> We'd be much better off having as much of the logic shared as possible. 
> No?
> 
> Your 2/2 actually fixed that, because it moved the broken 
> wait_event_interruptible_timeout() out of the (non-shared) use_module() 
> into the (shared) resolve_symbol_wait(). But even that seemed to be almost 
> accidental, and seemed to be more about the fact that now the locking 
> rules required it (if you wanted to wait without holding the lock), rather 
> than anything else.

!CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD still does the old "fail don't wait" behavior.

So yes, moving the waiting into common code was a win for consistency,
either with your patch or mine.

> So I'd suggest we should just track those module dependencies, and share 
> more of the code and the logic. Because it looks to me like not sharing it 
> continually results in bugs.
> 
> No?

I wonder if we should just get rid of !CONFIG_UNLOAD then?  I have a soft spot
for it because it keeps us honest and shows how much shit is there simply for
our poor man's pagable kernel.

Let me compile up a kernel with and without and see what it's really doing
to us...

Thanks,
Rusty.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-01  5:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-25 21:00 [Regression] Crash in load_module() while freeing args Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-25 22:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-25 23:47   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-26  8:00     ` Rusty Russell
2010-05-26 11:57       ` Rusty Russell
2010-05-26 22:56         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-26 23:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-27  5:26           ` Rusty Russell
2010-05-27 18:46             ` Brandon Philips
2010-05-31  9:40               ` Rusty Russell
2010-05-31 12:00                 ` [PATCH 0/2] kernel/module.c locking changes Rusty Russell
2010-05-31 12:01                   ` [PATCH 1/2] module: make locking more fine-grained Rusty Russell
2010-05-31 12:02                     ` [PATCH 2/2] module: fix bne2 "gave up waiting for init of module libcrc32c" Rusty Russell
2010-05-31 16:48                       ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-31 18:19                         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-31 20:15                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-31 20:16                             ` [PATCH 1/2] Make the module 'usage' lists be two-way Linus Torvalds
2010-05-31 20:17                               ` [PATCH 2/2] module: wait for other modules after dropping the module_mutex Linus Torvalds
2010-06-01  1:37                               ` [PATCH 1/2] Make the module 'usage' lists be two-way Rusty Russell
2010-06-01  3:42                                 ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-01  4:00                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-01  4:05                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-01  2:44                               ` Américo Wang
2010-06-01  3:51                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-01  1:57                             ` [PATCH 2/2] module: fix bne2 "gave up waiting for init of module libcrc32c" Rusty Russell
2010-06-01  3:40                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-01  4:27                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-01  5:19                                 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2010-06-02  3:15                                   ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-01  1:21                           ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-01  3:24                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-01  5:22                               ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-01 14:58                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-01 17:53                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-01 23:24                                     ` Brandon Philips
2010-06-01 23:51                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-02  2:10                                         ` Brandon Philips
2010-06-02  3:03                                           ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-02  4:35                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-02  4:44                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-02  6:35                                               ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-02  7:45                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-02  8:12                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-02  9:07                                                     ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-02  5:52                                             ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-02  7:21                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-02 14:06                                                 ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-02 14:50                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03 13:06                                                     ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-02 16:53                                                   ` Brandon Philips
2010-06-02 18:01                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-03  5:20                                                     ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-03 16:24                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-04  1:02                                                         ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-04  1:55                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-04  5:20                                                             ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-04 22:48                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-05  1:49                                                                 ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-02  3:09                                   ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-02  4:32                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-02  4:56                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-02  5:52                                       ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-02  6:59                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-01  1:04                         ` Rusty Russell
2010-06-01  5:38                     ` [PATCH 1/2] module: make locking more fine-grained Américo Wang
2010-06-01  5:55                       ` Rusty Russell
2010-05-27 21:57             ` [Regression] Crash in load_module() while freeing args Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-05-31  7:54               ` Rusty Russell
2010-05-31 10:23               ` [PATCH] module: fix reference to mod->percpu after freeing module Rusty Russell
2010-05-31 10:25                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-05-26 15:41       ` [Regression] Crash in load_module() while freeing args Linus Torvalds

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