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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"TuxOnIce-devel" <tuxonice-devel@tuxonice.net>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: Proposal for a new algorithm  for	reading & writing a hibernation image.
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 21:21:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201006052121.45816.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1275765021.12828.2.camel@maxim-laptop>

On Saturday 05 June 2010, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-06-05 at 20:45 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: 
> > On Saturday 05 June 2010, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > > Hi again.
> > > 
> > > As I think about this more, I reckon we could run into problems at 
> > > resume time with reloading the image. Even if some bits aren't modified 
> > > as we're writing the image, they still might need to be atomically 
> > > restored. If we make the atomic restore part too small, we might not be 
> > > able to do that.
> > > 
> > > So perhaps the best thing would be to stick with the way TuxOnIce splits 
> > > the image at the moment (page cache / process pages vs 'rest'), but 
> > > using this faulting mechanism to ensure we do get all the pages that are 
> > > changed while writing the first part of the image.
> > 
> > I still don't quite understand why you insist on saving the page cache data
> > upfront and re-using the memory occupied by them for another purpose.  If you
> > dropped that requirement, I'd really have much less of a problem with the
> > TuxOnIce's approach.
> Because its the biggest advantage?

It isn't in fact.

> Really saving whole memory makes huge difference.

You don't have to save the _whole_ memory to get the same speed (you don't
do that anyway, but the amount of data you don't put into the image with
TuxOnIce is smaller).  Something like 80% would be just sufficient IMO and
then (a) the level of complications involved would drop significantly and (2)
you'd be able to use the image-reading code already in the kernel without
any modifications.  It really looks like a win-win to me, doesn't it?

Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-05 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-03 14:50 [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [linux-pm] Proposal for a new algorithm for reading & writing a hibernation image Pavel Machek
2010-06-04 23:39 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-04 23:58   ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05  0:36     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-05  0:45       ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-05  3:37         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05  0:47       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05  1:16         ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-05  3:17           ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05  0:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 12:59   ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Theodore Tso
2010-06-05 23:01     ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05  0:20 ` [linux-pm] [SUSPECTED SPAM] " Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 18:45   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-05 19:10     ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-05 19:21       ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-06-05 22:54         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-05 23:20           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06  7:01             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-06 14:06               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07  5:23                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-07  8:40                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06  0:40         ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-06 13:57           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06 15:54             ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-06 19:04               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-06 19:51                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-06 21:55                 ` Pedro Ribeiro
2010-06-07  8:41                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07  5:31                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-07  8:49                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-08  2:07                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-08  9:01                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07 13:07                   ` [TuxOnIce-devel] " Martin Steigerwald
2010-06-07 21:28                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-06-07 21:31                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-06-07  5:28             ` Nigel Cunningham

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