From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Tom Lyon <pugs@lyon-about.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
hjk@linutronix.de, gregkh@suse.de, aafabbri@cisco.com,
scofeldm@cisco.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VFIO driver: Non-privileged user level PCI drivers
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:22:48 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100608212248.GC21815@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201006071201.04418.pugs@lyon-about.com>
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:01:04PM -0700, Tom Lyon wrote:
> On Sunday 06 June 2010 02:54:51 am Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 02:41:38PM -0700, Tom Lyon wrote:
> > > OK, in the interest of making progress, I am about to embark on the following:
> > >
> > > 1. Create a user-iommu-domain driver - opening it will give a new empty domain.
> > > Ultimately this can also populate sysfs with the state of its world, which would
> > > also be a good addition to the base iommu stuff.
> > > If someone closes the fd while in use, the domain stays valid anyway until users
> > > drop off.
> > >
> > > 2. Add DOMAIN_SET and DOMAIN_UNSET ioctls to the vfio driver. Require that
> > > a domain be set before using the VFIO_DMA_MAP_IOVA ioctl
> >
> > Require domain to be set before you allow any access to the device:
> > mmap, write, read. IMO this is the only safe way to make sure userspace
> > does not corrupt memory, and this removes the need to special-case
> > MSI memory, play with bus master enable and hope it can be cleared without
> > reset, etc.
>
> Michael - the light bulb finally lit for me and I now understand what you've been
> saying the past few weeks. Of course you're right - we need iommu set before any
> register access. I had thought that was done by default but now I see that the
> dma_map_sg routine only attaches to the iommu on demand.
>
> So I will torpedo the MAP_ANYWHERE stuff. I'd like to keep the MAP_IOVA ioctl
> with the vfio fd so that the user can still do everything with one fd. I'm thinking the
> fd opens and iommu bindings could be done in a program before spinning out the
> program with the user driver.
This would kind of break Avi's idea that mappings are programmed
at the domain and shared by multiple devices, won't it?
> >
> > > (this is the one
> > > that KVM wants).
> >
> > Not sure I understand. I think that MAP should be done on the domain,
> > not the device, this handles pinning pages correctly and
> > this way you don't need any special checks.
> >
> > > However, the VFIO_DMA_MAP_ANYWHERE ioctl is the one
> > > which uses the dma_sg interface which has no expicit control of domains. I
> > > intend to keep it the way it is, but expect only non-hypervisor programs would
> > > want to use it.
> >
> > If we support MAP_IOVA, why is MAP_ANYWHERE useful? Can't
> > non-hypervisors just pick an address?
> >
> > > 3. Clean up the docs and other nits that folks have found.
> > >
> > > Comments?
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-08 21:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-28 23:07 [PATCH] VFIO driver: Non-privileged user level PCI drivers Tom Lyon
2010-05-28 23:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-05-28 23:56 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-05-29 11:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-29 12:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 12:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 12:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 13:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 13:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 14:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-31 11:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-31 17:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 8:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-01 9:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 10:28 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-01 10:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 12:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 9:45 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 10:04 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 10:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 11:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 16:53 ` Chris Wright
2010-06-06 13:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 10:26 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-01 21:26 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-02 2:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 5:29 ` Chris Wright
2010-06-02 5:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 4:29 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-02 4:59 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-02 5:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 9:53 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 9:42 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 9:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 9:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 10:19 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 10:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 10:35 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 10:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 11:12 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 11:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 12:19 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 12:50 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 13:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 13:53 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 13:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 14:01 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 12:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 13:02 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 17:46 ` Chris Wright
2010-06-02 18:09 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-02 19:46 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-03 6:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-03 21:41 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-06 9:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-07 19:01 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-08 21:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2010-06-02 10:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 12:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-31 17:17 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-01 21:29 ` Tom Lyon
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