From: "Roedel, Joerg" <Joerg.Roedel@amd.com>
To: Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
"mtosatti@redhat.com" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
"glommer@redhat.com" <glommer@redhat.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/17] Fix AMD C1 TSC desynchronization
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:46:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100615144601.GD15264@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C174607.4040107@redhat.com>
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 05:21:11AM -0400, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> On 06/14/2010 10:47 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > On 06/15/2010 10:34 AM, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> >> + /*
> >> + * AMD processors can de-synchronize TSC on halt in C1 state,
> >> because
> >> + * processors in lower P state will have TSC scaled properly during
> >> + * normal operation, but will have TSC scaled improperly while
> >> + * servicing cache probes. Because there is no way to determine
> >> how
> >> + * TSC was adjusted during cache probes, there are two solutions:
> >> + * resynchronize after halt, or disable C1-clock ramping.
> >> + *
> >> + * We implemenent solution 2.
> >> + */
> >> +#ifdef CONFIG_K8_NB
> >> + if (boot_cpu_data.x86_vendor == X86_VENDOR_AMD&&
> >> + boot_cpu_data.x86 == 0x0f&&
> >> + !boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_CONSTANT_TSC)) {
> >> + struct pci_dev *nb;
> >> + int i;
> >> + cache_k8_northbridges();
> >> + for (i = 0; i< num_k8_northbridges; i++) {
> >> + u8 byte;
> >> + nb = k8_northbridges[i];
> >> + pci_read_config_byte(nb, 0x87,&byte);
> >> + if (byte& 1) {
> >> + printk(KERN_INFO "%s: AMD C1 clock ramping detected,
> >> performing workaround\n", __func__);
> >> + disabled_c1_ramp = byte;
> >> + pci_write_config_byte(nb, 0x87, byte& 0xFC);
> >> +
> >> + }
> >> + }
> >> + }
> >> +#endif
This is dangerous to do as a general thing on all Fam0fh based AMD
systems, especially mobile ones and especially since some distributions
load the kvm modules at boot per default.
The BIOS should set meaningful default values for PMM7 and the
recommended default value for servers already set this bit to zero.
> I agree it is complete hackery. I do not recommend this patch for
> upstream inclusion unless it is proposed also by someone more familiar
> with the hardware.
I will check again with some other people inside AMD, but my current
suggestion would be to not provide kvm-clock to the guest if running on
an AMD Fam0fh processor in an SMP environemnt with PMM7.0 set. This also
sucks in its own way but is safer than just disable clock ramping on all
affected processors.
Joerg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-15 14:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-15 7:34 TSC cleanups, fixes, documentation for KVM Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 01/17] Eliminate duplicated timer code Zachary Amsden
2010-06-16 13:07 ` Glauber Costa
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 02/17] Make cpu_tsc_khz updates use local CPU Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 8:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 03/17] Unify vendor TSC logic Zachary Amsden
2010-06-16 8:10 ` Jason Wang
2010-06-16 13:22 ` Glauber Costa
2010-06-17 8:03 ` Jason Wang
2010-06-16 18:42 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-17 8:15 ` Jason Wang
2010-06-17 20:30 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 04/17] Fix deep C-state TSC desynchronization Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 8:09 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 8:14 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-16 8:10 ` Jason Wang
2010-06-16 18:43 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-16 13:24 ` Glauber Costa
2010-06-16 19:20 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 05/17] Keep SMP VMs more in sync on unstable TSC Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 8:11 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-16 8:11 ` Jason Wang
2010-06-16 13:32 ` Glauber Costa
2010-06-16 21:15 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 06/17] Rename KVM_REQ_KVMCLOCK_UPDATE Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 07/17] Perform hardware_enable in CPU_STARTING callback Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 08/17] Add clock sync request to hardware enable Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 8:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 09/17] Move scale_delta into common header Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 10/17] Make KVM clock computation work for other scales Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 11/17] Fix a possible backwards warp of kvmclock Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 8:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 20:37 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 23:47 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-06-16 0:21 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-16 0:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-06-16 8:11 ` Jason Wang
2010-06-16 13:58 ` Glauber Costa
2010-06-16 14:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-16 14:58 ` Glauber Costa
2010-06-16 22:38 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-16 19:36 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 12/17] Add helper function get_kernel_ns Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 8:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 21:03 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 21:13 ` john stultz
2010-06-16 8:12 ` Jason Wang
2010-06-16 14:03 ` Glauber Costa
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 13/17] Add TSC offset tracking Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 8:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 14/17] Fix SVM VMCB reset Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 15/17] Fix AMD C1 TSC desynchronization Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 8:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 9:21 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 14:46 ` Roedel, Joerg [this message]
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 16/17] TSC reset compensation Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 8:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 20:32 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-16 0:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-06-16 0:32 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-16 13:52 ` Glauber Costa
2010-06-16 22:36 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 7:34 ` [PATCH 17/17] Add timekeeping documentation Zachary Amsden
2010-06-15 8:51 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 20:27 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-06-16 23:59 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-17 8:55 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-17 21:14 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-06-18 7:49 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-18 16:33 ` Zachary Amsden
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