From: Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com>
To: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@gmail.com>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ptrace: allow restriction of ptrace scope
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:04:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100617170453.GV24749@outflux.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.1006172336390.17282@tundra.namei.org>
Hi James,
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:45:42PM +1000, James Morris wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Kees Cook wrote:
>
> [Note: it would be useful to cc: the LSM list on security discussions]
Sorry, I was blindly using get_maintainer output.
> > Certainly. PTRACE can already be confined by SELinux and AppArmor. I'm
> > looking for a general approach that doesn't require a system builder to
> > create MAC policies for unknown software. I want to define a common core
> > behavior.
> >
> > > And even if you don't care about using the same security stuff the rest
> > > of the world is using to solve the problem this like the other half baked
> > > stuff you posted for links belongs as a security module.
> >
> > The LSM isn't stackable, so I can't put it there and choose this and
> > SELinux (for the case of software-without-a-policy).
>
> SELinux already supports a global switch for ptrace via the allow_ptrace
> boolean. You don't need to write any policy, just set it to 0.
>
> Global behavior can be further customized and refined (e.g. create a
> generic policy module for apps without an existing policy, which allows
> everything except things like ptrace and dangerous symlinks).
>
> SELinux users would not need the other LSM, and stacking is thus not
> required.
But if a user wants to disable ptrace using the SELinux LSM and then
also disable sticky-symlinks via the ItsHideous LSM, they're out of luck.
-Kees
--
Kees Cook
Ubuntu Security Team
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-17 17:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-16 22:18 [PATCH] ptrace: allow restriction of ptrace scope Kees Cook
2010-06-16 23:01 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-16 23:22 ` Kees Cook
2010-06-17 13:45 ` James Morris
2010-06-17 17:04 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2010-06-17 20:53 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-17 21:06 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-06-17 21:16 ` Kees Cook
2010-06-17 22:18 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-17 22:25 ` Kees Cook
2010-06-17 22:34 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-17 21:18 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-17 21:51 ` Kees Cook
2010-06-17 22:30 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-17 23:03 ` James Morris
2010-06-18 3:10 ` Casey Schaufler
2010-06-18 10:54 ` Theodore Tso
2010-06-18 13:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-18 14:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-06-19 2:23 ` Casey Schaufler
2010-06-19 2:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 0:52 ` James Morris
2010-06-21 2:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-06-18 17:58 ` Kees Cook
2010-06-19 2:15 ` Tetsuo Handa
2010-06-19 3:19 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-06-16 23:10 ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-16 23:39 ` Kees Cook
2010-06-17 0:11 ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-17 0:46 ` Kees Cook
2010-06-18 12:36 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-06-17 12:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-17 16:59 ` Kees Cook
2010-06-17 20:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-17 21:14 ` Kees Cook
2010-06-17 22:50 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-06-17 23:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
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