From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Fr??d??ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/3] Unified NMI delayed call mechanism
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:48:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100618094838.GD23977@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C15A5D1.1040104@jp.fujitsu.com>
* Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> (2010/06/12 19:25), Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > * Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> >> NMI can be triggered even when IRQ is masked. So it is not safe for NMI
> >> handler to call some functions. One solution is to delay the call via self
> >> interrupt, so that the delayed call can be done once the interrupt is
> >> enabled again. This has been implemented in MCE and perf event. This patch
> >> provides a unified version and make it easier for other NMI semantic handler
> >> to take use of the delayed call.
> >
> > Instead of introducing this extra intermediate facility please use the same
> > approach the unified NMI watchdog is using (see latest -tip): a perf event
> > callback gives all the extra functionality needed.
> >
> > The MCE code needs to be updated to use that - and then it will be integrated
> > into the events framework.
>
> Hi Ingo,
>
> I think this "NMI delayed call mechanism" could be a part of "the events
> framework" that we are planning to get in kernel soon. [...]
My request was to make it part of perf events - which is a generic event
logging framework. We dont really need/want a second 'events framework'
as we have one already ;-)
> [...] At least APEI will use NMI to report some hardware events (likely
> error) to kernel. So I suppose we will go to have a delayed call as an
> event handler for APEI.
Yep, that makes sense. I wasnt arguing against the functionality itself, i was
arguing against the illogical layering that limits its utility. By making it
part of perf events it becomes a generic part of that framework and can be
used by anything that deals with events and uses that framework.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-18 9:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-12 9:28 [RFC 1/3] Unified NMI delayed call mechanism Huang Ying
2010-06-12 9:28 ` [RFC 2/3] Use unified NMI delayed call mechanism in MCE handler Huang Ying
2010-06-12 9:28 ` [RFC 3/3] Use unified NMI delayed call mechanism in perf event NMI handler Huang Ying
2010-06-12 10:25 ` [RFC 1/3] Unified NMI delayed call mechanism Ingo Molnar
2010-06-13 1:54 ` Huang Ying
2010-06-14 3:45 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2010-06-14 13:54 ` Don Zickus
2010-06-14 14:44 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-14 15:12 ` Don Zickus
2010-06-18 10:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-18 9:48 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-06-18 11:34 ` huang ying
2010-06-18 12:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-18 13:40 ` huang ying
2010-06-18 14:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-18 15:16 ` huang ying
2010-06-18 15:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-19 1:51 ` huang ying
2010-06-19 8:02 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-19 10:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-19 14:07 ` huang ying
2010-06-19 14:24 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-18 11:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-18 12:25 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-18 12:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-18 13:09 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-18 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-18 13:23 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-18 13:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-18 14:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-19 14:17 ` Andi Kleen
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