From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
Mandeep Singh Baines <msb@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@kernel.org,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: while_each_thread() under rcu_read_lock() is broken?
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:06:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100621200633.GA21099@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100621190212.C8630400C5@magilla.sf.frob.com>
On 06/21, Roland McGrath wrote:
>
> > Paul, Roland, do you see any problems from the correctness pov,
> > or a better fix for now?
> >
> > Perhaps it also makes sense to keep the old variant renamed to
> > while_each_thread_locked(), I dunno.
>
> Did we verify that only de_thread() can create the situation where a
> while_each_thread-style loop without either lock can be confused?
I think yes, this is is the only case.
I mean, while_each_thread(group_leader, t). If g != group_leader, then
the lockless while_each_thread() has problems with the plain exit(g).
Afaics. The more I think about this, the more I feel confused ;)
But if we start from ->group_leader, then while_each_thread() must
stop eventually. Otherwise we should assume that the dead (unhashed)
tasks can create the circular list, obviously this is not possible.
> If
> that's so, then just changing it to avoid the situation seems like it
> would be less invasive overall.
How? We should change ->group_leader uner write_lock_irq(tasklist),
synchronize_rcu() is not an option. We can't do call_rcu(release_task),
we can't take tasklist for writing in the softirq context. But even
if we could, this can't help in fact or I missed something.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-21 20:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-18 19:02 [PATCH] fix the racy check_hung_uninterruptible_tasks()->rcu_lock_break() logic Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 19:34 ` while_each_thread() under rcu_read_lock() is broken? Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 21:08 ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-18 22:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 22:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-21 17:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-21 17:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-21 18:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-21 19:02 ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-21 20:06 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-06-21 21:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-22 14:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-08 23:59 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-09 0:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-07-09 1:01 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-09 16:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-21 20:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-21 21:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 21:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-22 21:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-22 22:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-23 15:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-24 18:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-24 18:50 ` Chris Friesen
2010-06-24 22:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25 0:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-25 3:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-25 10:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-09 0:52 ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-24 21:14 ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-25 3:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-07-09 0:41 ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-24 21:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25 3:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-25 9:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-28 23:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-29 13:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-29 15:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-29 17:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-19 5:00 ` Mandeep Baines
2010-06-19 5:35 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-19 15:44 ` Mandeep Baines
2010-06-19 19:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 20:11 ` [PATCH] fix the racy check_hung_uninterruptible_tasks()->rcu_lock_break() logic Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-18 20:38 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
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