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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	Mandeep Singh Baines <msb@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: while_each_thread() under rcu_read_lock() is broken?
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:06:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100621200633.GA21099@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100621190212.C8630400C5@magilla.sf.frob.com>

On 06/21, Roland McGrath wrote:
>
> > Paul, Roland, do you see any problems from the correctness pov,
> > or a better fix for now?
> >
> > Perhaps it also makes sense to keep the old variant renamed to
> > while_each_thread_locked(), I dunno.
>
> Did we verify that only de_thread() can create the situation where a
> while_each_thread-style loop without either lock can be confused?

I think yes, this is is the only case.

I mean, while_each_thread(group_leader, t). If g != group_leader, then
the lockless while_each_thread() has problems with the plain exit(g).

Afaics. The more I think about this, the more I feel confused ;)

But if we start from ->group_leader, then while_each_thread() must
stop eventually. Otherwise we should assume that the dead (unhashed)
tasks can create the circular list, obviously this is not possible.

> If
> that's so, then just changing it to avoid the situation seems like it
> would be less invasive overall.

How? We should change ->group_leader uner write_lock_irq(tasklist),
synchronize_rcu() is not an option. We can't do call_rcu(release_task),
we can't take tasklist for writing in the softirq context. But even
if we could, this can't help in fact or I missed something.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-21 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-18 19:02 [PATCH] fix the racy check_hung_uninterruptible_tasks()->rcu_lock_break() logic Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 19:34 ` while_each_thread() under rcu_read_lock() is broken? Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 21:08   ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-18 22:37     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 22:33   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-21 17:09     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-21 17:44       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-21 18:00         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-21 19:02         ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-21 20:06           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-06-21 21:19             ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-22 14:34               ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-08 23:59             ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-09  0:41               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-07-09  1:01                 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-09 16:18                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-21 20:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-21 21:22         ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-21 21:38           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-22 21:23         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-22 22:12           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-23 15:24             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-24 18:07               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-24 18:50                 ` Chris Friesen
2010-06-24 22:00                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25  0:08                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-06-25  3:42                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-25 10:08                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-09  0:52                       ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-24 21:14                 ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-25  3:37                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-07-09  0:41                     ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-24 21:57                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-25  3:41                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-25  9:55                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-28 23:43                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-29 13:05                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-29 15:34                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-29 17:54                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-19  5:00   ` Mandeep Baines
2010-06-19  5:35     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-19 15:44       ` Mandeep Baines
2010-06-19 19:19     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-18 20:11 ` [PATCH] fix the racy check_hung_uninterruptible_tasks()->rcu_lock_break() logic Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-18 20:38 ` Mandeep Singh Baines

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