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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@vmware.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Bruno Prémont" <bonbons@linux-vserver.org>,
	"Alexander Clouter" <alex@digriz.org.uk>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VMware balloon: force compiling as a module
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 15:59:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201007011600.00462.dtor@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100701154347.e3c1094b.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Thursday, July 01, 2010 03:43:47 pm Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 15:31:50 -0700
> 
> Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@vmware.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 01, 2010 03:18:35 pm Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:40:38 -0700
> > > 
> > > Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@vmware.com> wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, June 29, 2010 09:28:59 am Bruno Pr__mont wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 29 June 2010 Alexander Clouter <alex@digriz.org.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@vmware.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > VMware Tools installer requires the upstream driver to be
> > > > > > > compiled as a module in order to detect its presence and avoid
> > > > > > > installing our own version on top of it. To avoid surprises
> > > > > > > with 2 versions of the driver being installed and fighting
> > > > > > > with each other, let's force the driver to be compiled as a
> > > > > > > module unless user selects CONFIG_EMBEDDED.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > *barf*
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This surely is a problem in the installer and not the kernel? 
> > > > > > Can you not nosey around in /sys/class/misc or where-ever your
> > > > > > driver appears? If it does not, then I would probably suggest a
> > > > > > patch to your balloon driver that dumps some details in there,
> > > > > > including module version information.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Eugh.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In addition, the installer may check under /sys/module/ for it (as
> > > > > for any/most code that can be built as a module), even for
> > > > > built-in code. (if balloon driver does not show up there when
> > > > > built-in it would be better to get it to show up there)
> > > > 
> > > > When driver is built-in the only thing exported in /sys/module/XXX
> > > > are module parameters.
> > > > 
> > > > We also need to handle scenario when module is not loaded into the
> > > > kernel.
> > > 
> > > - check for the /sys/module directory.
> > 
> > Empty.
> 
> But the presence of the empty /sys/module/vmware_balloon tells you that
> the driver is loaded?
> 
> Confused.

No, unfortunately a kernel module that does not use module parameters
is invisible when it is built in. If you check your box you will most
likely not see /sys/module/evdev, /sys/module/input, and so forth.

> 
> > > - if that failed, modprobe the driver
> > 
> > Succeeds since the driver name changed (we renamed it to vmware_balloon
> > before submitting into mainline to avoid confusion based on our
> > experience with pvscsi; the existing one in the wild is called
> > vmmemctl).
> > 
> > Now we have 2 drivers fighting. There is no backing device and so driver
> > core will not save us by refusing to bind to already claimed device.
> 
> If vmware_balloon is present in /sys/modules or is loaded, don't load
> vmmemctl.  And vice versa.
> 
> I dunno - it's silly for me to sit here proposing solutions.  it's
> better that you do it!

Unfortunately I do not have a good solution at the moment. I guess we'll
have to work with distributions to make sure they keep it as a module
(it also makes most sense for them since not everyone runs on our
platform).

Thanks.

-- 
Dmitry


  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-01 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-28 23:00 [PATCH] VMware balloon: force compiling as a module Dmitry Torokhov
2010-06-29  8:27 ` Alexander Clouter
2010-06-29 16:28   ` Bruno Prémont
2010-06-29 16:40     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-07-01 22:18       ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-01 22:31         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-07-01 22:43           ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-01 22:59             ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2010-07-02  8:09               ` Alexander Clouter
2010-06-29 16:39   ` Dmitry Torokhov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-06-30 18:42 Chetan Loke
2010-06-30 19:27 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-06-30 21:26   ` Chetan Loke
2010-06-30 21:39     ` Dmitry Torokhov

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