From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@google.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 29/52] fs: icache lock i_count
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:31:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100702213149.f0ca2f72.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100703034123.GE11732@laptop>
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:41:23 +1000 Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 07:03:55PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:05:02 +1000 Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 05:27:02PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 01:02:41PM +1000, npiggin@suse.de wrote:
> > > > > Protect inode->i_count with i_lock, rather than having it atomic.
> > > > > Next step should also be to move things together (eg. the refcount increment
> > > > > into d_instantiate, which will remove a lock/unlock cycle on i_lock).
> > > > .....
> > > > > Index: linux-2.6/fs/inode.c
> > > > > ===================================================================
> > > > > --- linux-2.6.orig/fs/inode.c
> > > > > +++ linux-2.6/fs/inode.c
> > > > > @@ -33,14 +33,13 @@
> > > > > * inode_hash_lock protects:
> > > > > * inode hash table, i_hash
> > > > > * inode->i_lock protects:
> > > > > - * i_state
> > > > > + * i_state, i_count
> > > > > *
> > > > > * Ordering:
> > > > > * inode_lock
> > > > > * sb_inode_list_lock
> > > > > * inode->i_lock
> > > > > - * inode_lock
> > > > > - * inode_hash_lock
> > > > > + * inode_hash_lock
> > > > > */
> > > >
> > > > I thought that the rule governing the use of inode->i_lock was that
> > > > it can be used anywhere as long as it is the innermost lock.
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm, no references in the code or documentation. Google gives a
> > > > pretty good reference:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org/msg02584.html
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps a different/new lock needs to be used here?
> > >
> > > Well I just changed the order (and documented it to boot :)). It's
> > > pretty easy to verify that LOR is no problem. inode hash is only
> > > taken in a very few places so other code outside inode.c is fine to
> > > use i_lock as an innermost lock.
> >
> > um, nesting a kernel-wide singleton lock inside a per-inode lock is
> > plain nutty.
>
> I think it worked out OK. Because the kernel-wide locks are really
> restricted in where they are to be used (ie. not in filesystems). So
> they're really pretty constrained to the inode management subsystem.
> So filesystems still get to really use i_lock as an inner most lock
> for their purposes.
>
> And filesystems get to take i_lock and stop all manipulation of inode
> now. No changing of flags, moving it on/off lists etc behind its back.
> It really is about locking the data rather than the code.
>
> The final ordering outcome looks like this:
>
> * inode->i_lock
> * inode_list_lglock
> * zone->inode_lru_lock
> * wb->b_lock
> * inode_hash_bucket lock
Apart from the conceptual vandalism, it means that any contention times
and cache transfer times on those singleton locks will increase
worst-case hold times of our nice, fine-grained i_lock.
> And it works like that because when you want to add or remove an inode
> from various data structures, you take the i_lock
Well that would be wrong. i_lock protects things *within* its inode.
It's nonsensical to take i_lock when the inode is being added to or
removed from external containers because i_lock doesn't protect those
containers!
> and then take each
> of these locks in turn, inside it. The alternative is to build a bigger
> lock ordering graph, and take all the locks up-front before taking
> i_lock. I did actaully try that and it ended up being worse, so I went
> this route.
>
> I think taking a global lock in mark_inode_dirty is nutty (especially
> when that global lock is shared with hash management, LRU scanning,
> writeback, i_flags access... :) It's just a question of which is less
> nutty.
Yes, inode_lock is bad news.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-03 4:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-24 3:02 [patch 00/52] vfs scalability patches updated npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 01/52] kernel: add bl_list npiggin
2010-06-24 6:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-24 14:42 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-06-28 21:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-29 6:30 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 02/52] fs: fix superblock iteration race npiggin
2010-06-29 13:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-29 14:56 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-29 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29 17:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-29 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-29 20:04 ` Chris Clayton
2010-06-29 20:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-29 20:38 ` Chris Clayton
2010-06-30 7:13 ` Chris Clayton
2010-06-30 12:51 ` Al Viro
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 03/52] fs: fs_struct rwlock to spinlock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 04/52] fs: cleanup files_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 05/52] lglock: introduce special lglock and brlock spin locks npiggin
2010-06-24 18:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-25 6:22 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-25 9:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-06-25 10:11 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 06/52] fs: scale files_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 7:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 07/52] fs: brlock vfsmount_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 08/52] fs: scale mntget/mntput npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 09/52] fs: dcache scale hash npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 10/52] fs: dcache scale lru npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 11/52] fs: dcache scale nr_dentry npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 12/52] fs: dcache scale dentry refcount npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 13/52] fs: dcache scale d_unhashed npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 14/52] fs: dcache scale subdirs npiggin
2010-06-24 7:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 9:50 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 15:53 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 15/52] fs: dcache scale inode alias list npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 16/52] fs: dcache RCU for multi-step operaitons npiggin
2010-06-24 7:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:03 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 17:22 ` john stultz
2010-06-24 17:26 ` john stultz
2010-06-25 6:45 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 17/52] fs: dcache remove dcache_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 18/52] fs: dcache reduce dput locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 19/52] fs: dcache per-bucket dcache hash locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 20/52] fs: dcache reduce dcache_inode_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 21/52] fs: dcache per-inode inode alias locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 22/52] fs: dcache rationalise dget variants npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 23/52] fs: dcache percpu nr_dentry npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 24/52] fs: dcache reduce d_parent locking npiggin
2010-06-24 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 15:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-24 16:05 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-28 21:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-07-07 14:35 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 25/52] fs: dcache DCACHE_REFERENCED improve npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 26/52] fs: icache lock s_inodes list npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 27/52] fs: icache lock inode hash npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 28/52] fs: icache lock i_state npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 29/52] fs: icache lock i_count npiggin
2010-06-30 7:27 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:05 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 2:36 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 7:54 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 9:36 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 16:21 ` Frank Mayhar
2010-07-03 2:03 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-03 3:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-03 4:31 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-07-03 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-03 5:18 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-05 22:41 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-06 4:34 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-06 10:38 ` Theodore Tso
2010-07-06 13:04 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-07 17:00 ` Frank Mayhar
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 30/52] fs: icache lock lru/writeback lists npiggin
2010-06-24 8:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 15:09 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 15:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 31/52] fs: icache atomic inodes_stat npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 32/52] fs: icache protect inode state npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 33/52] fs: icache atomic last_ino, iunique lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 34/52] fs: icache remove inode_lock npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 35/52] fs: icache factor hash lock into functions npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 36/52] fs: icache per-bucket inode hash locks npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 37/52] fs: icache lazy lru npiggin
2010-06-24 9:52 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 15:59 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-30 8:38 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 2:46 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 7:57 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 38/52] fs: icache RCU free inodes npiggin
2010-06-30 8:57 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 39/52] fs: icache rcu walk for i_sb_list npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 40/52] fs: dcache improve scalability of pseudo filesystems npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 41/52] fs: icache reduce atomics npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 42/52] fs: icache per-cpu last_ino allocator npiggin
2010-06-24 9:48 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 15:52 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:19 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:38 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 43/52] fs: icache per-cpu nr_inodes counter npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 44/52] fs: icache per-CPU sb inode lists and locks npiggin
2010-06-30 9:26 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:08 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 3:12 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 8:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 45/52] fs: icache RCU hash lookups npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 46/52] fs: icache reduce locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:02 ` [patch 47/52] fs: keep inode with backing-dev npiggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 48/52] fs: icache split IO and LRU lists npiggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 49/52] fs: icache scale writeback list locking npiggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 50/52] mm: implement per-zone shrinker npiggin
2010-06-24 10:06 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:00 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 16:27 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:32 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-24 16:37 ` Andi Kleen
2010-06-30 6:28 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:03 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 51/52] fs: per-zone dentry and inode LRU npiggin
2010-06-30 10:09 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:13 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-24 3:03 ` [patch 52/52] fs: icache less I_FREEING time npiggin
2010-06-30 10:13 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:14 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 3:33 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 8:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-25 7:12 ` [patch 00/52] vfs scalability patches updated Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-25 8:05 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-30 11:30 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-30 12:40 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 3:56 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-01 8:20 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 17:36 ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-01 17:23 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 17:28 ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-06 17:49 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-01 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-01 17:52 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-02 4:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-06-30 17:08 ` Frank Mayhar
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