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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: mmu notifier calls in apply_to_page_range()
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:12:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100709151211.GE13493@random.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C373AEC.6000502@goop.org>

On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 08:06:20AM -0700, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> I just noticed that the original mmu notifier change (cddb8a5c14a) adds
> calls to mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start/end to
> apply_to_page_range().  This doesn't seem correct to me, since
> apply_to_page_range can perform arbitrary operations to the range of
> pages, not just invalidation of the pages.  It seems to me that the
> appropriate mmu notifiers should be called either around the call to
> apply_to_page_range(), or from within the callback function.
> 
> Andrea, what's the rationale for mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start/end
> here?

As long as the secondary mappings are teardown in range_start and
allowed to be established again only after range_end, all
modifications will be picked up by the secondary mmu. Imagine
secondary mmu like a tlb, that you only invalidate, then it'll be
refilled later (after range_end).

The exception is set_pte_at_notify that is called by ksm to establish
a readonly secondary pte in KVM, KVM only calls
get_user_pages(write=1) (never write=0 even for reads) so until that
is optimized set_pte_at_notify allows guest to access readonly data
without breaking the cow. set_pte_at_notify invokes a change_pte
method, if not implemented it'll just fallback to the invalidate_page
method that is backwards compatible, so no mmu notifier user is
required to call change_pte (especially if the secondary page fault -
kind of secondary tlb-miss software handler invokes get_user_pages
with write=0 for reads, ->change_pte can only eliminate one minor
fault so no big deal).

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-09 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-09 15:06 mmu notifier calls in apply_to_page_range() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-09 15:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2010-07-09 15:51   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-09 16:22     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-07-09 17:30       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-09 17:36         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-07-09 17:41           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-09 18:31             ` Andrea Arcangeli

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