From: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: stable? quality assurance?
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:30:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201007131230.23039.Martin@lichtvoll.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C3B9F56.5090806@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
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Am Dienstag 13 Juli 2010 schrieb Stefan Richter:
> ...
>
> > Is the Linux kernel development really in balance with feature work
> > and stabilization work? Currently at least from my personal
> > perception it is not. Development goes that fast - can you all cope
> > with that speed? Maybe its just time to slow it down a bit?
>
> If those who added the regressions are found out and asked to debug and
> fix them, the balance should be corrected and perhaps more precautions
> being taken in the future. Alas, finding the point in history at which
> the kernel regressed might take a lot more time than to actually fix it
> then. In that case, maybe give the author of the bug an estimate of
> the volunteered hours that were spent on reporting this bug, to put
> the repercussions into it into perspective. OTOH I suspect a lack of
> responsibility at the developers is not so much an issue here, more so
> that the number of people who take the time for -rc tests (not to
> mention linux-next tests) and to file reports is rather low. Plus, a
> good bug report often requires experience or good intuition, besides
> patience and rigor.
>
> There were discussions in the past on how more enthusiasts who are
> willing and able to test prereleases could be attracted. But maybe
> (just maybe) there are more ways in which the developers themselves
> could perform more extensive/ more systematic tests.
Well I reported it now, although it contains not nearly as much
information on how to reproduce it or any other debug information either.
I just did not report it before cause I didn't find the information I can
provide very helpful and until yesterday I thought it might just have been
these two freezes and thats it. But maybe report it early is better than
not to report it at all.
Bug 16376 - random - possibly Radeon DRM KMS related - freezes
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16376
I will look in the logs whether I might have luck and find anything this
afternoon when my students learn vi/vim, but I doubt it.
Ciao,
--
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-11 7:18 stable? quality assurance? Martin Steigerwald
2010-07-11 8:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-07-11 14:22 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-07-11 14:52 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-07-11 15:58 ` William Pitcock
2010-07-11 16:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-07-16 6:59 ` Greg KH
2010-08-05 3:27 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-07-11 17:04 ` Heinz Diehl
2010-07-11 13:16 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-07-11 18:02 ` Anca Emanuel
2010-07-12 6:46 ` David Newall
[not found] ` <AANLkTilGjfx9sb66qVfZn1SeFPURHUrrdE7JCrild8VX@mail.gmail.com>
2010-07-12 12:35 ` Fwd: " Marcin Letyns
2010-07-12 12:42 ` Alexey Dobriyan
[not found] ` <AANLkTik64lxDiCN-eRo3i_-cTqAvCzbaRI4EEXoD44Vj@mail.gmail.com>
2010-07-12 12:52 ` Fwd: " Marcin Letyns
2010-07-12 14:57 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-07-12 15:56 ` David Newall
2010-07-12 17:48 ` Marcin Letyns
2010-07-12 18:00 ` Stefan Richter
2010-07-12 19:58 ` David Newall
2010-07-12 21:11 ` Stefan Richter
2010-07-12 21:39 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-07-12 22:44 ` Stefan Richter
2010-07-15 7:23 ` david
2010-07-13 16:50 ` Theodore Tso
2010-07-13 20:45 ` David Newall
2010-07-14 6:33 ` Theodore Tso
2010-09-04 17:12 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-07-11 13:56 ` Lee Mathers
2010-07-11 14:51 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-07-11 17:22 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-07-11 21:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-07-12 4:17 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-07-12 9:56 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-07-12 15:43 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-07-12 17:36 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-07-12 19:56 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-07-12 23:03 ` Stefan Richter
2010-07-13 10:30 ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2010-07-15 7:32 ` david
2010-07-12 17:55 ` Stefan Richter
2010-09-04 16:38 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-09-04 18:46 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-04 19:11 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-09-04 23:23 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-05 7:59 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-09-04 19:24 ` Stefan Richter
2010-09-04 19:34 ` Stefan Richter
2010-09-04 20:21 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-09-04 22:50 ` Stefan Richter
2010-09-04 23:16 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-05 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-05 9:48 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-07-11 19:49 ` Stefan Richter
2010-07-13 11:11 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2010-07-13 12:50 ` rt2x00: slow wifi with correct basic rate bitmap (was Re: stable? quality assurance?) Stefan Richter
2010-07-13 15:35 ` John W. Linville
2010-07-13 18:19 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2010-07-13 18:38 ` John W. Linville
2010-07-13 19:07 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2010-07-13 18:06 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2010-07-13 19:18 ` Stefan Richter
2010-07-12 19:46 ` stable? quality assurance? Nix
[not found] ` <AANLkTimEdVsmIgXBbmhsq75ElQvGAI8avsM8-wlDpm4z@mail.gmail.com>
2010-07-15 9:09 ` Valeo de Vries
2010-07-16 7:00 ` Greg KH
2010-07-16 7:19 ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-07-16 15:25 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-07-16 15:34 ` Valeo de Vries
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2010-09-04 16:42 Martin Steigerwald
2010-09-04 17:22 ` Willy Tarreau
2010-09-04 19:33 ` Martin Steigerwald
2010-09-04 20:19 ` Willy Tarreau
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