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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Divyesh Shah <dpshah@google.com>
Cc: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, nauman@google.com,
	guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com, czoccolo@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] cfq-iosched: Improve time slice charging logic
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:44:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100719204446.GF32503@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikqd3VzLSkJfGoN0s29NzhkqJSYSPEEOS2s0TOn@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 01:32:24PM -0700, Divyesh Shah wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Yes it is mixed now for default CFQ case. Whereever we don't have the
> > capability to determine the slice_used, we charge IOPS.
> >
> > For slice_idle=0 case, we should charge IOPS almost all the time. Though
> > if there is a workload where single cfqq can keep the request queue
> > saturated, then current code will charge in terms of time.
> >
> > I agree that this is little confusing. May be in case of slice_idle=0
> > we can always charge in terms of IOPS.
> 
> I agree with Jeff that this is very confusing. Also there are
> absolutely no bets that one job may end up getting charged in IOPs for
> this behavior while other jobs continue getting charged in timefor
> their IOs. Depending on the speed of the disk, this could be a huge
> advantage or disadvantage for the cgroup being charged in IOPs.
> 
> It should be black or white, time or IOPs and also very clearly called
> out not just in code comments but in the Documentation too.

Ok, how about always charging in IOPS when slice_idle=0?

So on fast devices, admin/user space tool, can set slice_idle=0, and CFQ
starts doing accounting in IOPS instead of time. On slow devices we
continue to run with slice_idle=8 and nothing changes.

Personally I feel that it is hard to sustain time based logic on high end
devices and still get good throughput. We could make CFQ a dual mode kind
of scheduler which is capable of doing accouting both in terms of time as
well as IOPS. When slice_idle !=0, we do accounting in terms of time and
it will be same CFQ as of today. When slice_idle=0, CFQ starts accounting
in terms of IOPS.

I think this change should bring us one step closer to our goal of one
IO sheduler for all devices.

Jens, what do you think?

Thanks
Vivek 

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-19 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-19 17:20 [RFC PATCH] cfq-iosched: Implement group idle V2 Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 17:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] cfq-iosched: Improve time slice charging logic Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 18:47   ` Jeff Moyer
2010-07-19 18:58     ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 20:32       ` Divyesh Shah
2010-07-19 20:44         ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2010-07-19 21:19           ` Corrado Zoccolo
2010-07-19 22:05             ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 17:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] cfq-iosched: Implement a new tunable group_idle Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 18:58   ` Jeff Moyer
2010-07-19 20:20     ` Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 17:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] cfq-iosched: Print per slice sectors dispatched in blktrace Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 18:59   ` Jeff Moyer
2010-07-19 22:16   ` Divyesh Shah
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-19 17:14 [RFC PATCH] cfq-iosched: Implement group idle V2 Vivek Goyal
2010-07-19 17:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] cfq-iosched: Improve time slice charging logic Vivek Goyal

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