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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: lkml@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jon Hunter <jon-hunter@ti.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] notify userspace about time changes
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 13:05:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100805100535.GA1754@shutemov.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100804154638.GB28519@shisha.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 06:46:38PM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 06:32:21 +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 03:48:28PM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> > > Certain userspace applications (like "clock" desktop applets or ntpd) might
> > > want to be notified when some other application changes the system time. It
> > > might also be important for an application to be able to distinguish between
> > > its own and somebody else's time changes.
> > > 
> > > This patch implements a notification interface via eventfd mechanism. Proccess
> > > wishing to be notified about time changes should create an eventfd and echo
> > > its file descriptor to /sys/kernel/time_notify. After that, any calls to
> > > settimeofday()/stime()/adjtimex() made by other processes will be signalled
> > > to this eventfd. Credits for suggesting the eventfd mechanism for this
> > > purpose go te Kirill Shutemov.
> > > 
> > > So far, this implementation can only filter out notifications caused by
> > > time change calls made by the process that wrote the eventfd descriptor to
> > > sysfs, but not its children which (might) have inherited the eventfd. It
> > > is so far not clear to me whether this is bad and more confusing than
> > > excluding such children as well.
> > 
> > I think it's a bad idea to filter notifications. Let's leave it for
> 
> Why?

Someone might want to recieve notifications about its own activity.
It's a policy. Kernel should provide mechanism, not policy.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-05 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-04 12:48 [PATCH] [RFC] notify userspace about time changes Alexander Shishkin
2010-08-04 12:54 ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2010-08-04 15:49   ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-08-04 15:32 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2010-08-04 15:46   ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-08-05 10:05     ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2010-08-04 15:58 ` john stultz
2010-08-04 18:48   ` Chris Friesen
2010-08-05  0:52     ` john stultz
2010-08-05 12:39       ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-08-05 14:10       ` Chris Friesen
2010-08-05 12:33   ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-08-05 21:11     ` john stultz
2010-08-05 21:38       ` Greg KH
2010-08-05 22:22         ` Kay Sievers
2010-08-05 22:34           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-08-05 22:39             ` Kay Sievers
2010-08-05 22:43               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-08-05 22:38           ` Greg KH
2010-08-06  7:21             ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-08-06 23:44               ` Greg KH
2010-08-06  7:11           ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-08-06  7:43           ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2010-08-05 22:17       ` Kay Sievers
2010-08-05 22:29         ` john stultz
2010-08-05 22:30           ` john stultz
2010-08-05 23:50           ` Kay Sievers
2010-08-06  0:16             ` john stultz

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