From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
david@lang.hm, Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arve@android.com,
mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, pavel@ucw.cz, florian@mickler.org,
rjw@sisk.pl, stern@rowland.harvard.edu, peterz@infradead.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, menage@google.com, david-b@pacbell.net,
James.Bottomley@suse.de, arjan@infradead.org, swmike@swm.pp.se,
galibert@pobox.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:28:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100811222854.GJ2516@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwHaKpLdRdxmZj6JDJnsZ+o-jzbVcXhRW3Jmd9@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:18:51PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Paul E. McKenney
> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > But wouldn't an office suite run as a power-oblivious application on an
> > Android device? After all, office applications do not need to run when
> > the screen is turned off, so these the applications do not need to use
> > suspend blockers.
>
> Ideally the system would be suspended even when the screen is on. If
> there are no "trusted" applications running at the same time, then
> openoffice wouldn't load at all. Right?
My understanding is that Android systems in fact do not suspend when
the screen is on, and that most (perhaps all) other systems do not
opportunistically suspend at all. There has been some speculation about
what a hypothetical Android having a non-volatile display might do,
but as far as I know, this is just speculation.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-11 22:29 UTC|newest]
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2010-07-31 17:58 Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread Paul E. McKenney
2010-07-31 20:19 ` Alan Stern
2010-08-01 4:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-01 19:41 ` Alan Stern
2010-08-01 20:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-01 22:16 ` Alan Stern
2010-08-01 22:38 ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2010-08-02 0:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-02 0:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-01 15:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-01 19:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-01 22:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-02 0:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-01 4:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-08-01 5:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-01 6:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-08-01 19:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-01 20:40 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-01 23:00 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-08-01 23:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-01 23:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-08-01 23:19 ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2010-08-01 23:30 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-02 12:12 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-02 16:51 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-02 18:47 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-02 3:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-02 4:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-08-02 5:06 ` david
2010-08-02 5:44 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-02 6:06 ` david
2010-08-02 6:40 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-02 6:53 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-02 7:02 ` david
2010-08-02 7:23 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-02 9:06 ` david
2010-08-03 4:41 ` Paul Menage
2010-08-03 11:26 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-03 4:38 ` Paul Menage
2010-08-03 11:25 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-02 14:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-03 0:08 ` david
2010-08-03 3:21 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-03 4:44 ` david
2010-08-03 5:01 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-03 5:06 ` david
2010-08-03 22:47 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-03 23:19 ` david
2010-08-04 0:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 0:51 ` david
2010-08-04 3:39 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-04 4:47 ` david
2010-08-04 5:46 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-04 5:59 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-04 6:30 ` david
2010-08-04 7:10 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-04 7:35 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-04 7:42 ` david
2010-08-04 11:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-04 18:51 ` david
2010-08-04 20:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-04 23:04 ` david
2010-08-04 23:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-04 23:39 ` david
2010-08-05 0:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-05 13:21 ` david
2010-08-04 4:58 ` Olivier Galibert
2010-08-04 6:03 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-04 6:28 ` Olivier Galibert
2010-08-04 6:50 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-04 16:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 20:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-04 3:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-08-04 4:55 ` david
2010-08-04 6:12 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-04 6:48 ` david
2010-08-04 5:22 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-04 18:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 18:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 20:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-02 5:34 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-02 12:27 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-02 14:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-02 14:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-01 22:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-08-02 1:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-02 3:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-08-02 14:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-02 13:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-02 20:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-02 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-02 22:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-02 22:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-03 4:56 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-03 14:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 1:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-08-04 16:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 16:35 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-04 18:30 ` david
2010-08-04 18:55 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-04 19:15 ` david
2010-08-04 19:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-04 19:29 ` david
2010-08-04 19:57 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-04 22:20 ` david
2010-08-05 13:38 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-05 14:34 ` david
2010-08-05 15:15 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-04 20:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 22:29 ` david
2010-08-04 23:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 23:15 ` david
2010-08-04 20:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-04 20:56 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-04 21:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 21:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-04 22:08 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-05 0:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-05 1:02 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-05 3:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-05 13:40 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-05 14:22 ` david
2010-08-05 14:29 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-05 14:33 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-05 15:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-05 22:02 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-05 23:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-06 0:29 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-06 0:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-06 17:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-06 1:29 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-06 12:43 ` Mark Brown
2010-08-06 16:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-06 19:44 ` Alan Stern
2010-08-06 22:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-07 8:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-07 13:35 ` Alan Stern
2010-08-08 17:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-08 19:07 ` Alan Stern
2010-08-07 3:19 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-07 8:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-07 10:02 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-07 10:23 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-08 19:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-09 5:29 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-10 2:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-10 4:28 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-11 2:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-08 19:42 ` Alan Stern
2010-08-09 4:52 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-08 19:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-09 5:09 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-05 2:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-05 2:46 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-05 4:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 22:31 ` david
2010-08-04 22:51 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-04 22:56 ` david
2010-08-04 23:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 23:13 ` Anca Emanuel
2010-08-04 23:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 23:19 ` david
2010-08-04 23:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-04 23:53 ` david
2010-08-05 0:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-05 13:28 ` david
2010-08-05 13:47 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-05 14:07 ` david
2010-08-05 14:16 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-05 14:23 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-05 5:33 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-05 5:56 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-05 13:04 ` david
2010-08-04 23:15 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-04 23:23 ` david
2010-08-04 23:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 23:49 ` david
2010-08-05 0:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-05 0:25 ` david
2010-08-05 0:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-05 5:18 ` david
2010-08-05 15:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-05 15:46 ` david
2010-08-05 18:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-05 20:09 ` david
2010-08-05 18:13 ` kevin granade
2010-08-05 18:20 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-05 20:30 ` david
2010-08-05 20:26 ` david
2010-08-05 23:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-06 8:29 ` david
2010-08-06 17:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-06 22:12 ` david
2010-08-05 20:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-05 20:51 ` kevin granade
2010-08-05 22:09 ` david
2010-08-05 22:16 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-05 23:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-06 0:13 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-06 0:16 ` david
2010-08-06 0:22 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-06 1:01 ` david
2010-08-06 1:22 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-06 8:07 ` david
2010-08-06 12:35 ` Mark Brown
2010-08-06 12:30 ` Mark Brown
2010-08-06 17:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-06 17:33 ` Mark Brown
2010-08-06 18:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-06 23:35 ` david
2010-08-07 0:14 ` Mark Brown
2010-08-07 0:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-07 13:07 ` Mark Brown
2010-08-07 14:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-07 1:00 ` david
2010-08-07 6:28 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-08 13:35 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-08 16:08 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-08 17:08 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-08 17:09 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-08 18:34 ` Mark Brown
2010-08-12 0:23 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-07 9:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-07 10:00 ` david
2010-08-07 15:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-07 20:17 ` david
2010-08-07 21:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-05 23:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-05 16:09 ` [linux-pm] " Mark Brown
2010-08-05 18:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 23:40 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-05 0:00 ` david
2010-08-04 20:42 ` Pavel Machek
2010-08-04 20:48 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-04 22:54 ` david
2010-08-04 20:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-04 21:15 ` Pavel Machek
2010-08-04 21:39 ` Florian Mickler
2010-08-04 22:42 ` david
2010-08-04 21:40 ` Mark Brown
2010-08-05 1:58 ` Matt Helsley
2010-08-05 2:02 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-05 3:25 ` Matt Helsley
2010-08-01 6:24 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2010-08-01 6:49 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2010-08-01 19:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-01 22:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-08-02 3:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-01 19:45 ` Alan Stern
2010-08-01 23:16 ` [linux-pm] " James Bottomley
2010-08-02 1:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-03 4:18 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-03 15:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-03 22:23 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-04 1:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-03 16:02 ` [linux-pm] " James Bottomley
2010-08-03 22:08 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-04 4:00 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-04 5:43 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2010-08-04 19:57 ` Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take two Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-05 13:18 ` david
2010-08-05 13:37 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-05 23:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-05 14:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-09 7:26 ` Pavel Machek
2010-08-09 7:34 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-06 22:54 ` Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-06 23:59 ` david
2010-08-07 0:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-07 1:40 ` david
2010-08-07 2:41 ` Alan Stern
2010-08-07 3:08 ` david
2010-08-07 13:26 ` Alan Stern
2010-08-07 21:01 ` david
2010-08-08 15:36 ` Alan Stern
2010-08-07 2:05 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-07 3:14 ` david
2010-08-07 6:15 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-07 9:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-07 9:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-07 14:46 ` Theodore Tso
2010-08-07 20:36 ` david
2010-08-08 16:17 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-07 9:38 ` david
2010-08-07 15:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-07 21:20 ` david
2010-08-08 12:53 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-08 15:57 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-08 17:40 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-08 18:02 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-08 21:38 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-09 10:24 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-09 18:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-09 18:28 ` david
2010-08-09 18:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-09 19:18 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-09 19:32 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-10 1:17 ` david
2010-08-10 4:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-10 8:38 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-10 14:11 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-10 14:40 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-10 14:55 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-10 14:44 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-11 0:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-10 18:07 ` david
2010-08-10 18:13 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-10 18:18 ` david
2010-08-11 0:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-11 1:28 ` david
2010-08-11 2:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-11 3:00 ` david
2010-08-11 22:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-11 20:00 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-11 22:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-12 0:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-12 16:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-12 17:52 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-12 18:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-13 15:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-13 15:28 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-13 17:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-19 23:10 ` david
2010-08-20 4:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
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2010-08-11 19:43 ` Mark Brown
2010-08-11 19:18 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-11 22:28 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2010-08-12 0:28 ` Felipe Contreras
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2010-08-12 1:25 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-12 3:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-12 10:36 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-12 10:47 ` Theodore Tso
2010-08-12 11:11 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-12 11:40 ` Alan Stern
2010-08-12 12:28 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-12 12:52 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-12 16:46 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-12 18:21 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-12 19:05 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-12 19:19 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-12 19:57 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-08-13 3:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-13 4:25 ` [linux-pm] " Paul Fox
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2010-08-17 15:00 ` Alan Stern
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2010-08-14 7:59 ` Pavel Machek
2010-08-13 10:39 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-14 7:50 ` Pavel Machek
2010-08-16 11:36 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2010-08-16 15:16 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-08-17 0:20 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-17 0:55 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-08-17 7:08 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-17 15:33 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-17 17:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-09-04 8:57 ` Pavel Machek
2010-08-12 14:09 ` Mark Brown
2010-08-12 16:57 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-12 17:33 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-12 19:00 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-12 19:27 ` [linux-pm] " Dominik Brodowski
2010-08-12 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-12 19:34 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-12 19:48 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-12 19:52 ` [linux-pm] " Dominik Brodowski
2010-08-13 10:30 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-13 10:43 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-13 10:35 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-13 10:58 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-13 14:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-28 8:51 ` Pavel Machek
2010-08-31 0:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-13 15:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-13 15:40 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-13 15:57 ` [linux-pm] " Dominik Brodowski
2010-08-13 16:06 ` Joe Perches
2010-08-13 16:19 ` Dominik Brodowski
2010-08-13 16:19 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-13 17:11 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-13 19:08 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-13 19:29 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-14 0:43 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-16 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-08-17 12:07 ` Igor Stoppa
2010-08-13 10:57 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-13 15:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-14 7:38 ` Pavel Machek
2010-08-14 15:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-14 16:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-08-14 18:15 ` David Brownell
2010-08-15 7:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-16 16:09 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-08-17 15:25 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-10 14:15 ` Mark Brown
2010-08-11 16:57 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-11 19:31 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-11 21:25 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-11 21:37 ` Brian Swetland
2010-08-11 22:03 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-08-11 22:12 ` Brian Swetland
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