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From: Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/5] perf: Turn the group counter values into delta values
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:21:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100830132138.GA24828@console-pimps.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1283172841.1820.895.camel@laptop>

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 02:54:01PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 13:13 +0100, Matt Fleming wrote:
> > Change the semantics of the PERF_FORMAT_GROUP records and make them
> > delta values, i.e. the difference in value between consecutive reads of
> > the hardware counters. These delta values will be used in a subsequent
> > patch to calculate weighted values (by multiplying the deltas with the
> > time difference between reads of the counters). Calculating these deltas
> > is easiest to do in the kernel (as opposed to the userland tools)
> > because we can reset the counter whenever we read from it.
> > 
> > Note that even though this patch changes the semantics of
> > PERF_FORMAT_GROUP records there were no users of them anyway (the tools
> > didn't even understand them).
> 
> libpfmon might be using it,.. I know some people occasionally reported
> bugs for this so there are users.
> 
> Also, there's no real synchonization between read,read and read,sample
> so its racy to do this, simply generate deltas in post-processing.

Ah, fair enough. Thanks, I'll do this with post-processing.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-30 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-30 12:13 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] hrtimer group events Matt Fleming
2010-08-30 12:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] perf: Check if we should exclude idle thread in perf_exclude_event() Matt Fleming
2010-08-31 14:54   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-08-31 15:20     ` Matt Fleming
2010-08-31 15:21       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-08-30 12:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] perf: Turn the group counter values into delta values Matt Fleming
2010-08-30 12:54   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-30 13:21     ` Matt Fleming [this message]
2010-08-30 12:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] perf: Add hrtimer code for PMI-less hardware counters Matt Fleming
2010-08-30 12:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-30 13:27     ` Matt Fleming
2010-08-30 14:12       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-30 19:35         ` Matt Fleming
2010-08-30 12:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] sh: Add support for sampling counters Matt Fleming
2010-08-30 12:13 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] perf: Add support for PERF_SAMPLE_READ samples Matt Fleming

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