From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754832Ab0ICNey (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:34:54 -0400 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]:51472 "EHLO moutng.kundenserver.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754357Ab0ICNex (ORCPT ); Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:34:53 -0400 From: Arnd Bergmann To: Gene Heskett Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] tty: move stuff around Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 15:34:22 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.2 (Linux/2.6.35-16-generic; KDE/4.3.2; x86_64; ; ) Cc: mhw@wittsend.com, Rogier Wolff , Alan Cox , Greg KH , Jiri Slaby , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Geert Uytterhoeven , Mike Frysinger References: <1283115995-4734-1-git-send-email-arnd@arndb.de> <201009031413.00266.arnd@arndb.de> <201009030858.08060.gene.heskett@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201009030858.08060.gene.heskett@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201009031534.22286.arnd@arndb.de> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:KGMoKFzJtOQYwyCsdoTOhTOswQ5Z8Lq2rEn9WgbrPq2 C1CM6PxuWo55A6CRD0HQVbfkrph0sMRI/gmpan6FHJizRvpOd4 ietCbhQxy6cpBDyKnDvsPJI5Uznoc9ujTTgkMrztjd8cO723cJ hBHQLNLGwC6ATwCXrh989TCTHVHH0KTSMYdLLqXg2cHh1hnJGL JnflO6g9RTNFqik+ViBAQ== Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Friday 03 September 2010, Gene Heskett wrote: > Dipping an interested oar in this water, but speaking purely from the user > viewpoint; > > That is all well and good I suppose, but please ask yourselves if there are > suitable modern replacements for this hardware, and are the drivers > available in linux? As far as I understand, these are all fairly simple (by today's standards) serial boards, so the assumption is that anyone running a machine with a 2.6.35 kernel would get a $5 (more for mulitport) USB serial adapter. > If there are not suitable replacements, buy able at the likes of newegg et > all, then this attitude seems a bit premature. > > I presume the same can be said of the rocketport drivers, I haven't seen > those boards for sale in yonks, but there are probably at least 1 of them > in every television station in the country (USA), doing wire service > capture. Ok, good to know, this is the kind of information I was looking for. I agree that as long as there are users, we shouldn't just kill the drivers. For rocket.c, Alan already mentioned that there users left, so it's not going away. Note that there are also cases where we know that users exist, but for some reason they are all stuck on 2.4 kernels or older anyway, so there is no point in keeping the driver for new kernel releases. Also, we can always add them back if the situation changes or we hear of users we didn't know about. Arnd