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From: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Jean Pihet <jean.pihet@newoldbits.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Arjan Van De Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	arjan@infradead.org, Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing, perf: add more power related events
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 22:10:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201009032210.08524.trenn@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100903195555.GA1663@elte.hu>

On Friday 03 September 2010 21:55:55 Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jean,
> > 
> > Summary at the beginning if people stop reading on the details
> > below...:
> > Nice work!
> > You have my vote to get this merged.
> > I think it's up to Ingo to push it.
> 
> Well, the patch that got posted:
> 
>   [PATCH] tracing, perf: add more power related events
> 
> Only adds tracepoints to power.h, but doesnt actually use them anywhere 
> ...
> 
> Is there a companion patch i missed?
Yep.
Jean has nicely made up a tiny website he refered to in his mail:
http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/Power_Management_Debug_and_Profiling
There he shows the whole big patch and states:
Since the patch touches generic files (in include/trace/events/power.h), it is split in parts:
    * generic code: submitted to the LKML, cf. http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=128195697205096&w=4 ,
    * ARM/OMAP specific code for the already existing events: to be submitted to l-o, cf. http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg35357.html,
    * ARM/OMAP specific code for the new events, to be submitted once the generic code is accepted. 

> Also, it would be nice to add it to x86 and to OMAP at once, and 
> synchronize up all the power events
I can add sleep state events to x86 acpi parts, but even these are, as said, not
that interesting as they might be on ARM ultra mobile use cases.

> - and check how existing tools like 
> powertop make use of such events - and sync it all up.
Does powertop use these events?

> We dont want to 
> have inconsistent, architecture-dependent events in the end, for obvious 
> reasons.
Jean also shows screenshots at the link above
how perf timechart or the the corresponding
gui app PyTimechart still works together with these.
I can't see how the new events should break an existing app, they should
just ignore events they are not aware of.

     Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-03 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-16 11:09 [PATCH] tracing, perf: add more power related events Jean Pihet
2010-08-16 11:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-16 11:25   ` Jean Pihet
2010-08-23 10:25     ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-03 17:00       ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-03 18:05         ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-03 19:55           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-03 20:10             ` Thomas Renninger [this message]
2010-09-03 20:28               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-03 22:56               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-09-04  8:18                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-06  8:56                   ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-06 10:42                     ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-06 11:27                       ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-06 12:00                         ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-07  7:28                           ` Jean Pihet
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-09-07  7:21 Jean Pihet
2010-09-07  8:01 ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-08  6:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-09  7:15   ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-09  7:54     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-15 15:45       ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-17 13:08         ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-17 14:05           ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-17 14:24             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-17 15:36               ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-17 16:24                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-17 22:26                   ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-22 15:31                     ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-22 15:33                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-09-22 15:36                         ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-22 16:32                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-09-22 16:43                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-22 17:06                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-09-22 17:30                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-22 18:15                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-22 18:23                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-22 18:30                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-22 18:26                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-22 18:36                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-22 18:43                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-22 19:14                                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-09-22 17:36                                 ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-22 16:47                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-22 17:57                         ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-22 18:13                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-09-22 18:34                             ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-22 18:09                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-22 18:49                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-28  8:35                         ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-28 21:22                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-28 21:43                             ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-28 22:05                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-28 21:45                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-09-28 22:05                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-09-29  7:49                               ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-29  9:25                                 ` Jean Pihet
2010-09-17 15:29             ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-17 21:58             ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-17 22:04             ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-17 22:10             ` Thomas Renninger
2010-09-17 22:17             ` Thomas Renninger

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