From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] check_preempt_tick should not compare vruntime with wall time
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:45:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100913174533.GA15653@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimB9CjH5SjeY9XmwhTp1tfFPwh-Q1Y4o918h7XD@mail.gmail.com>
* Linus Torvalds (torvalds@linux-foundation.org) wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> >
> > OK, the long IRC discussions we just had convinced me that the current scheme
> > takes things into account by adapting the granularity dynamically, but also got
> > me to notice that check_preempt seems to compare vruntime with wall time, which
> > is utterly incorrect. So maybe all my patch was doing was to expose this bug:
>
> Do you have latency numbers for this patch?
Sure, see below,
In addition to this patch, I also used Peter's approach of reducing the minimum
granularity (given that now I am confident that the value of
sysctl_sched_min_granularity won't affect the preemption granularity directly,
but rather indirectly through the period length). The result, succinctly, is
that just the "check_preempt" fix does not seem to do much difference in terms
of fork wakeup latency (the results below give an order of magnitude, but should
be taken with a grain of salt due to the noise). I ran 3 the tests 3 times each,
and took the average, but there is clearly some noise.
FWIW, Xorg and firefox feel _much more_ responsive with the fix I propose when
running with a make -j10. The system is even usable with a make -j20 on my UP
machine, even though I can start feeling a some lag. This is probably a more
important, yet less scientific, result.
It turns out that the min_granularity value (and hence the associated nr_latency
values) have been brought from 20 down to 5
(commit 722aab0c3bbd7648d66790515c14d95d10a15bf3), and then down to 3 lately
(commit 21406928afe43f1db6acab4931bb8c886f4d04ce). I would not be surprised that
this last change might have been trying to hide the vruntime vs wall time
comparison bug, which has been introduced in
commit f685ceacab07d3f6c236f04803e2f2f0dbcc5afb.
2.0GHz Pentium M
* wakeup-latency.c (SIGEV_THREAD) with make -j10
- Mainline 2.6.35.2 kernel
maximum latency: 45762.1 µs
average latency: 7348.6 µs
missed timer events: 0
- check_preempt fix
maximum latency: 39858.9 µs
average latency: 7728.1 µs
missed timer events: 0
- With only Peter's smaller min_gran (shown below):
maximum latency: 29100.6 µs
average latency: 6684.1 µs
missed timer events: 0
- check_preempt fix + Peter's smaller min_gran:
maximum latency: 20433.0 µs
average latency: 5112.5 µs
missed timer events: 0
Thanks,
Mathieu
Diminish min granularity patch:
---
kernel/sched_fair.c | 6 +++---
1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
Index: linux-2.6-lttng.git/kernel/sched_fair.c
===================================================================
--- linux-2.6-lttng.git.orig/kernel/sched_fair.c
+++ linux-2.6-lttng.git/kernel/sched_fair.c
@@ -54,13 +54,13 @@ enum sched_tunable_scaling sysctl_sched_
* Minimal preemption granularity for CPU-bound tasks:
* (default: 2 msec * (1 + ilog(ncpus)), units: nanoseconds)
*/
-unsigned int sysctl_sched_min_granularity = 2000000ULL;
-unsigned int normalized_sysctl_sched_min_granularity = 2000000ULL;
+unsigned int sysctl_sched_min_granularity = 750000ULL;
+unsigned int normalized_sysctl_sched_min_granularity = 750000ULL;
/*
* is kept at sysctl_sched_latency / sysctl_sched_min_granularity
*/
-static unsigned int sched_nr_latency = 3;
+static unsigned int sched_nr_latency = 8;
/*
* After fork, child runs first. If set to 0 (default) then
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-13 17:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-11 17:37 [RFC patch 0/2] sched: dynamically adapt granularity with nr_running Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-11 17:37 ` [RFC patch 1/2] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-11 18:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-11 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-11 20:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-11 20:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-11 20:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-12 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-11 20:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-12 9:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-12 9:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-12 20:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 12:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-12 20:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 12:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 4:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13 8:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 11:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 13:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-13 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 14:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 14:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-11 20:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-11 19:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-12 10:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-12 20:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 12:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 13:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 13:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 14:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 14:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-13 15:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 15:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-13 16:16 ` [RFC PATCH] check_preempt_tick should not compare vruntime with wall time Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-13 17:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-09-13 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-13 18:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 18:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-13 18:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 18:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 18:23 ` [PATCH] sched: Improve latencies under load by decreasing minimum scheduling granularity Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 18:28 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-13 19:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-13 20:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 18:19 ` [RFC PATCH] check_preempt_tick should not compare vruntime with wall time Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 17:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 17:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-14 2:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13 14:44 ` [RFC patch 1/2] sched: dynamically adapt granularity with nr_running Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <1284386179.10436.6.camel@marge.simson.net>
2010-09-13 15:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 18:04 ` [RFC][PATCH] sched: Improve tick preemption Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-14 2:27 ` [RFC patch 1/2] sched: dynamically adapt granularity with nr_running Mike Galbraith
2010-09-12 6:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-12 7:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-12 18:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 4:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13 6:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 7:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13 7:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13 8:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 9:16 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 9:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13 9:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 10:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 11:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 11:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 12:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13 20:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 20:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-12 18:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-12 23:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-11 17:37 ` [RFC patch 2/2] sched: sleepers coarse granularity on wakeup Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-12 12:44 ` [RFC patch 0/2] sched: dynamically adapt granularity with nr_running Peter Zijlstra
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