From: Florian Mickler <florian@mickler.org>
To: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
Cc: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Wolfram Sang <w.sang@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] get_maintainer.pl: append reason for cc to the name by default
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 19:46:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100914194646.52d4bf96@schatten.dmk.lab> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1lj749ra2.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:19:33 -0700
ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) wrote:
> Florian Mickler <florian@mickler.org> writes:
>
> What is needed is something other than output that is a list of
> email addresses.
>
> email address foo had x% of non-author signed off bys
> email address foo had y% of author signed off bys
> email address foo had y% of author commits.
> email address foo came from the Maintainers file.
Currently get_maintainer.pl only does signed-off-by counting, it doesn't
take authorship in account, IIRC. That is a good point. It's
information that is easily available.
>
> Additionally for email addresses that hit less often a list
> of patch subject titles, and truncated sha1 patch ids. So
> with luck you can tell at a glance the person is of interest
> and if not you can look at their commits quickly and see.
An interactive mode in git shortlog form of the last year should be
possible, i guess.
I wonder, if git send-email --cc-cmd allows for directing input towards
get_maintainer.pl. That would be awesome.
>
> That is all pretty trivial, it should be fast and it should with
> a little care let the bogus results be filtered out quickly.
>
> > As far as I can see, Andrew is in favor of not caring about
> > false-positives in order to not sacrifice the detection rate of the
> > tool.
>
> Which means in time every long time developer will be copied on every
> patch. That is what we have lkml for. I don't have a problem with the
> tool returning false positives. I do have a problem with the tool
> taking away the ability and the responsibility of developers to pay
> attention to which human beings they are sending their patches to.
Fair enough. It does a one year cut-off for the history. But maybe that
is not the best approach.
>
> I don't want the tool to do the filtering. I want the tool to give
> enough information that the person using the tool can get a feel for the
> development history of the affected files and suggestions with a couple
> of metrics how useful someone is when Cc'd on a commit.
I think this is a good approach.
>
> > My approach tried to lower the impact of false positives by allowing
> > people to filter between "cc'd as maintainer" and "cc'd as
> > commit_signer". The former is pretty much never a false positive (as
> > long as MAINTAINERS is up to date) while the latter is more of a
> > hit'n'miss kind of method.
>
> And right now get_maintainer.pl is decreasing the relevancy of cc lines
> in commits, which if get_maintainers.pl is used enough could be a
> vicious circle.
>
> The problem as I see it is you present of a list of email addresses
> without enough information for someone using the tool to guess how
> accurate the results are.
Yes. I guess my patch adresses that somewhat, as it puts more
information in the output by default. But it only uses the information
already present in the script.
Regards,
Flo
>
> Eric
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-14 17:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-10 9:33 [PATCH] get_maintainer.pl: append reason for cc to the name by default florian
2010-09-10 9:42 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-10 9:46 ` Wolfram Sang
2010-09-10 9:53 ` Mark Brown
2010-09-10 10:04 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-10 10:18 ` Mark Brown
2010-09-10 10:47 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-10 11:07 ` Mark Brown
2010-09-11 0:22 ` [PATCH] scripts/get_maintainer.pl: Add --git-blame --rolestats "Authored lines" information Joe Perches
2010-09-11 9:38 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-11 9:52 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-11 10:02 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-11 10:22 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-11 19:22 ` [PATCH] Documentation/SubmittingPatches: Add and describe scripts/get_maintainer.pl Joe Perches
2010-09-11 19:34 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-11 19:43 ` [PATCH V2] " Joe Perches
2010-09-12 16:18 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-10 11:44 ` [PATCH] get_maintainer.pl: append reason for cc to the name by default Alan Cox
2010-09-10 10:22 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-10 10:47 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-11 21:22 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-10 10:30 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-10 11:04 ` Mark Brown
2010-09-10 11:15 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-10 21:04 ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-10 21:39 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-10 21:44 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-13 4:01 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-09-13 5:21 ` [PATCH] get_maintainer.pl: Look for .get_maintainer.conf in lk, then $HOME then scripts Joe Perches
2010-09-13 6:13 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-13 13:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-09-10 11:11 ` [PATCH] get_maintainer.pl: append reason for cc to the name by default Florian Mickler
2010-09-10 15:12 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-11 9:34 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-11 0:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-11 0:31 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-11 0:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-11 0:56 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-11 9:28 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-13 7:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-13 7:57 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-13 8:54 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-14 17:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-14 17:46 ` Florian Mickler [this message]
2010-09-15 3:28 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-15 4:34 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-15 4:45 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-15 12:49 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-14 23:15 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-13 9:01 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-14 17:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-26 18:52 ` RFC: " Joe Perches
2010-09-27 14:57 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-27 15:44 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-27 17:00 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-27 18:21 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-27 19:26 ` Florian Mickler
2010-09-27 20:08 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-27 20:47 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-27 21:16 ` Joe Perches
2010-09-28 4:22 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-28 4:37 ` Mark Brown
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