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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: what's papered over by set_fs(USER_DS) in amd64 signal delivery?
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:13:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100926091306.GA3857@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100925052054.GU19804@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>


* Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> [...]  IOW, that set_fs() seems to have been useless from the day 1, 
> unless I'm missing something really subtle, like e.g. some processes 
> deliberately running (in 2.0) with %fs set to something with lower 
> limit, with signal handlers allowed to switch back to normal for 
> duration.  And even that would've been broken, since there wouldn't be 
> a matching set_fs() in sigreturn()...

I dont recall us ever having done anything particularly 'clever' with 
in-kernel set_fs()/restore_fs(). Beyond fork/clone it was always 
supposed to be set/restored in a balanced manner. We sometimes leaked it 
unintentionally, and those were security holes.

( Cleverness with security primitives was in fact always actively
  discouraged, even in the early days, as cleverness has the uncanny
  tendency to bit-rot and then has the tendency to slow-convert to a
  security hole by stealth. We always wanted obvious, boringly dumb,
  fail-safe primitives, which can take a few years of bitrot robustly. )

Thanks,

	Ingo

      parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-26  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-24 15:52 what's papered over by set_fs(USER_DS) in amd64 signal delivery? Al Viro
2010-09-24 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-24 16:57   ` Al Viro
2010-09-25  2:25     ` Brian Gerst
2010-09-25  2:48       ` Al Viro
2010-09-25  3:51         ` Brian Gerst
2010-09-25  5:20           ` Al Viro
2010-09-25  9:54             ` Brian Gerst
2010-09-26  9:13             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]

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