From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756489Ab0JGVPk (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Oct 2010 17:15:40 -0400 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:50628 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756313Ab0JGVP1 (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Oct 2010 17:15:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 14:15:13 -0700 From: Greg KH To: Daniel Walker Cc: Alan Cox , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Hyok S. Choi" , Tony Lindgren , Jeff Ohlstein , Ben Dooks , Alan Cox , Kukjin Kim , Mike Frysinger , Feng Tang , Tobias Klauser , Jason Wessel , Philippe Langlais Subject: Re: [PATCH] serial: DCC(JTAG) serial and console emulation support Message-ID: <20101007211513.GB26660@suse.de> References: <1286476616-3373-1-git-send-email-dwalker@codeaurora.org> <20101007215019.17b4a34a@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <1286483766.23836.39.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> <20101007220538.2294a7e4@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <1286484678.23836.49.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1286484678.23836.49.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 01:51:18PM -0700, Daniel Walker wrote: > Your making too many assumptions .. You might be able to modify the > kernel, and not the userspace. So you couldn't tweak the device > creation .. It's much easier in the server world .. You're saying it's easier to replace an embedded kernel than a userspace file on an embedded system? Heh, that's funny. And no, it's not easier to repace a kernel on a "server" than a userspace file, due to all sorts of good reasons (certifications, support contracts, etc...) > > We've said no over a period of about ten years to a lot of attempts to > > just borrow the ttyS0 range. If we'd said yes it would have been a > > complete mess by now. > > > > So the answer is no. > > Nothing can be unilateral, there's always room for exceptions. You > should say something more like "it's possible, but unlikely". Hm, how about this, as the TTY and serial driver[1] maintainer, I will not accept this kind of patch at all. Is that final enough for you? thanks, greg k-h [1] http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/gregkh-2.6/gregkh-06-tty/serial-mark-the-8250-driver-as-maintained.patch