From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Casey Dahlin <cdahlin@redhat.com>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] x86: allow ZONE_DMA to be configurable
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:32:23 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101014153223.a710d70c.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010141509270.3696@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:15:28 -0700 (PDT)
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > > ZONE_DMA is unnecessary for a large number of machines that do not
> > > require addressing in the lower 16MB of memory because they do not use
> > > ISA devices with 16-bit address registers (plus one page byte register).
> > >
> > > This patch allows users to disable ZONE_DMA for x86 if they know they
> > > will not be using such devices with their kernel.
> > >
> > > This prevents the VM from unnecessarily reserving a ratio of memory
> > > (defaulting to 1/256th of system capacity) with lowmem_reserve_ratio
> > > for such allocations when it will never be used.
> > >
> >
> > I wonder how hard it would be to do this at runtime, probably with a
> > boot parameter.
> >
>
> A "no_zone_dma" boot parameter wouldn't allow us to achieve the text or
> data savings that we see from disabling all three options in question
> here.
True, but doing it at runtime is vastly more user-friendly. Distros
aren't doing to double the number of kernels they package for this
option!
Of course, we could do both.
> Hot-adding ZONE_DMA at runtime would be possible but there's no guarantee
> that memory hasn't fully been used by the time you do it, so it disregards
> lowmem_reserve_ratio unless you migrate everything, which has a dependency
> on it being movable.
>
> > I'd be a little concerned at the effects of this on page reclaim and
> > the page allocator - it might expose weird pre-existing bugs or
> > inefficiencies. But we can cross that bridge when we fall off it, I
> > guess.
> >
>
> We've run with it for a couple years, we can even undefine __GFP_DMA to
> find allocations that we compile into the kernel to ensure we don't have a
> requirement for the zone.
"we" is google, I assume.
> Perhaps only define the gfp flag when we have
> CONFIG_ZONE_DMA and break users' builds until they disable options that
> require it
That sounds a good idea.
What happens in the current patch if someone passes __GFP_DMA when
CONFIG_ZONE_DMA=n? ENOMEM? Perhaps it should WARN() as well.
> (or enable CONFIG_ZONE_DMA)?
hm. It'd be better to make all the drivers depend on ZONE_DMA. Good
luck with that :)
> It would be great if we could do "select ZONE_DMA" for all options that
> require it, though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-14 22:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-14 0:15 [patch] x86: allow ZONE_DMA to be configurable David Rientjes
2010-10-14 0:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-14 0:42 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-14 0:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-14 0:49 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-14 1:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-14 1:48 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-14 2:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-14 3:55 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-14 4:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-14 4:46 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-14 15:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-14 16:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-14 17:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-14 18:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-14 19:35 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-14 20:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-15 3:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-15 4:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-15 9:05 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-15 15:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-14 22:08 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-14 8:10 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-14 8:32 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-14 22:15 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-14 22:32 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-10-15 3:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-15 9:11 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-15 9:09 ` David Rientjes
2010-10-21 14:56 ` Christoph Lameter
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