From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
eparis@redhat.com, Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mimi Zohar <zohar@us.ibm.com>,
warthog9@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, devel@lists.fedoraprojet.org
Subject: Re: ima: use of radix tree cache indexing == massive waste of memory?
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 14:52:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101017185203.GD28060@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1287323960.1998.360.camel@laptop>
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 03:59:20PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Well, it does suck it needs to bloat data and code when its effectively
> disabled. Isn't there a way to gather this data before we enable it, eg.
> scan the files list on enable or somesuch?
>
> I mean, if you mandate an external storage you might as well extend
> struct inode, that's cheaper in each respect.
That's in fact what it did initially. While IBM claimed it would never
be enabled in distros and this would be fine I feared this would not be
true and told them to not make it have overhead if compiled in but not
used.
Turns out I wa right in my fear that IBM pressured distros to enable
it anyway. And turns out that I should have verified they didn't
actually mess it up instead of expecting people to get such trivial
things right.
> Me, I'm henceforth making sure to have CONFIG_IMA disabled...
Yeah.
> > but it doesn't
> > help the fact that the suggested structure for storage (the radix
> > tree) is apparently quite inefficient. I'd love to hear other
> > suggestions for a better structure....
>
> radix tree is efficient for dense sets, not sparse sets.
Which actually works just fine for inodes on many filesystems if you
use the right key.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-17 18:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-16 6:52 ima: use of radix tree cache indexing == massive waste of memory? Dave Chinner
2010-10-16 19:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16 21:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-17 0:35 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-17 0:54 ` J.H.
2010-10-17 2:11 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-18 18:12 ` J.H.
2010-10-17 0:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-17 1:09 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-10-17 1:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-17 5:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-17 5:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-17 18:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-18 0:49 ` James Morris
2010-10-18 6:25 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-10-18 6:36 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-18 9:29 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-18 13:31 ` Mimi Zohar
2010-10-18 20:50 ` Ware, Ryan R
2010-10-26 7:31 ` Pavel Machek
2010-10-18 16:03 ` Mimi Zohar
2010-10-18 19:24 ` John Stoffel
2010-10-18 16:46 ` Ryan Ware
2010-10-18 16:48 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-18 17:10 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-10-18 17:34 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-10-18 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-18 18:13 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-18 18:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-18 18:43 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-19 0:58 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-18 18:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-18 18:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-18 18:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-10-25 13:18 ` Pavel Machek
2010-10-17 5:57 ` Mimi Zohar
2010-10-17 11:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-17 13:12 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-17 13:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-17 14:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-17 14:16 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-18 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-18 14:59 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-18 15:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-18 15:02 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-17 18:52 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2010-10-18 16:44 ` Ryan Ware
2010-10-18 0:07 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-17 14:09 ` Mimi Zohar
2010-10-17 18:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-17 19:39 ` Pavel Machek
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2010-10-18 15:09 Christoph Hellwig
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