From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751898Ab0JVCsj (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:48:39 -0400 Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net ([150.101.137.145]:31935 "EHLO ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751149Ab0JVCsi (ORCPT ); Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:48:38 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAMaXwEx5Ldx0/2dsb2JhbAChXnK+KoVKBA Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:48:34 +1100 From: Nick Piggin To: Nick Piggin Cc: Al Viro , Dave Chinner , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Inode Lock Scalability V7 (was V6) Message-ID: <20101022024834.GA6708@amd> References: <1287622186-1935-1-git-send-email-david@fromorbit.com> <20101021050422.GP32255@dastard> <20101021132034.GB13620@amd> <20101021235227.GI12506@dastard> <20101022004540.GA5920@amd> <20101022022010.GG19804@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20101022023444.GA6573@amd> <20101022024152.GA6618@amd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101022024152.GA6618@amd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 01:41:52PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > The locking in my lock break patch is ugly and wrong, yes. But it is > always an intermediate step. I want to argue that with RCU inode work > *anyway*, there is not much point to reducing the strength of the > i_lock property because locking can be cleaned up nicely and still > keep i_lock ~= inode_lock (for a single inode). The other thing is that with RCU, the idea of locking an object in the data structure with a per object lock actually *is* much more natural. It's hard to do it properly with just a big data structure lock. If I want to take a reference to an inode from a data structre, how to do it with RCU? rcu_read_lock() list_for_each(inode) { spin_lock(&big_lock); /* oops, might as well not even use RCU then */ if (!unhashed) { iget(); } }