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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Tony Luck <tony.luck@gmail.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <petkovbb@googlemail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [NAK] Re: [PATCH -v2 9/9] ACPI, APEI, Generic Hardware Error Source POLL/IRQ/NMI notification type support
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:23:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101025202344.GC13652@liondog.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=2SVT1M+nDZUB7EB05jh+tsuKcew_t66QORrwb@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:14:52AM -0700, Tony Luck wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> 
> > drivers/acpi/apei/ overlaps and duplicates drivers/edac/. We dont want two
> > facilities, two ABIs, two sets of behavior. erst-dbg even defines a /dev node with
> > two ioctls, and a debugfs file to read/write records ...
> 
> As mentioned above these 4-letter names from from the ACPI specification. ERST
> is perhaps the dumbest name of them all - "Error Record Serialization Table" is
> ACPI-speak for platform level non-volatile memory.  This code simply provides
> a mechanism for Linux to stash some information in nvram before the system is
> reset, and to retrieve it after the reboot.
> 
> The naming could be better - but I don't see any overlap with EDAC here.

You may be right but what we actually want is a consistent RAS
infrastructure. Didn't you point out at the last edac meeting in Boston
that concerning RAS Linux were in the stone ages? (at least this is what
I remember reading).

What we should do is put all that post-system-reset error info, ECC
errors mapping to DRAM devices, L3 cache index manipulation based on
excessive errors - you name it - together and stick it in ras/ or
drivers/ras or whatever. And all with a nice and easy to use userspace
tool on top.

Now it looks like a wart on arch/x86/ which truly doesn't belong there.
And I don't buy all that crap that it can't be done right.

Thanks.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-25 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-25  7:43 [PATCH -v2 0/9] ACPI, APEI patches for 2.6.37 Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 1/9] ACPI, APEI, Add ERST record ID cache Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 2/9] Add lock-less version of bitmap_set/clear Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 3/9] lock-less NULL terminated single list implementation Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 4/9] lock-less general memory allocator Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 5/9] Hardware error device core Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 6/9] Hardware error record persistent support Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 7/9] ACPI, APEI, Use ERST for hardware error persisting before panic Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 8/9] ACPI, APEI, Report GHES error record with hardware error device core Huang Ying
2010-10-25  7:43 ` [PATCH -v2 9/9] ACPI, APEI, Generic Hardware Error Source POLL/IRQ/NMI notification type support Huang Ying
2010-10-25  8:45   ` [NAK] " Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25  8:58     ` Huang Ying
2010-10-25  9:19       ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-25 11:15         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 12:04           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-10-25 17:07             ` Tony Luck
2010-10-25 17:19               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-10-25 12:37           ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-25 12:55             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 13:02               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 13:11               ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-25 13:47                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 15:14                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-25 17:10                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-27  8:25                       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 16:38         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-25  9:25       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-25 17:14         ` Tony Luck
2010-10-25 20:23           ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2010-10-25 21:23             ` Tony Luck
2010-10-25 21:51               ` Borislav Petkov
2010-10-25 23:35                 ` Tony Luck
2010-10-26  6:26                   ` Borislav Petkov
2010-10-26  1:06     ` Len Brown
2010-10-26  4:53       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-26  7:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-26  7:30           ` Huang Ying
2010-10-26  7:55             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-26  8:32               ` Huang Ying
2010-10-26 10:03                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-26  8:38         ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-26 10:00           ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-26  8:52         ` Huang Ying
2010-10-26 10:15           ` Ingo Molnar

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