From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Prasad <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Q: perf_event && event->owner
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 16:57:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101109155714.GA1903@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101108201108.GA6777@nowhere>
On 11/08, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 03:57:54PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > Another thing I can't understand, event->owner/owner_entry.
> >
> > Say, some thread calls sys_perf_event_open() and creates the event.
> > It becomes its owner. Now this thread exits, but fd/event are still
> > here, and event->owner refers to the dead task_struct.
>
> Hmm, it seems to me that the last reference to the events are
> put in __perf_event_exit_task,
I think no, in this case sys_perf_event_open() owns the event. IOW,
perf_release() frees this perf_event. But this doesn't matter.
> and then free_event() is called
> there, which rcu queues the event to be released.
>
> Not sure where is the issue here.
I am not saying this is buggy. But it looks very strange to me.
If the creator of perf_event dies, nobody can use its ->perf_event_list
anyway. What is the point to keep the reference to the dead task_struct
and preserve this ->perf_event_list?
And why do we need ->owner at all? Afaics, it is _only_ needed to find
->perf_event_mutex in perf_event_release_kernel(). And this mutex only
protects ->perf_event_list (mostly for prctl).
Of course, I understand that it is not completely trivial to change this.
The exiting creator can clear its ->perf_event_list and set
event->owner = NULL, but then perf_event_release_kernel() should
avoid the races with do_exit() somehow.
> > ptrace looks even more strange. Debugger can attach the breakpoint
> > to the tracee and then exit/detach. ->ptrace_bps events still point
> > to the same (may be dead) task. Even if another debugger attaches
> > and reuses these events.
>
>
>
> Hmm, in this case ptrace_bps will continue to trigger on the task
> they were applied.
>
> On the other hand, you're right, I'm not sure that the debugger is
> the correct owner for the breakpoints.
> I think it works though, looking at perf_event_create_kernel_counter():
>
> event->owner = current;
> get_task_struct(current);
>
> (current is the debugger)
>
> On perf_event_release_kernel():
>
> put_task_struct(event->owner);
>
> So even if the debugger dies, we keep a valid owner, it works but just makes
> few sense as the debugger can change.
Yes, it works, but I am not sure about "valid" above ;) Even if the previous
debugger doesn't exit.
And. Suppose that the new debugger attaches and reuses ->ptrace_bps[],
everything works.
Now, the former debugger does prctl(PR_TASK_PERF_EVENTS_DISABLE) and
suddenly bps stop working.
Not to mention this looks racy. Can't prctl() doing perf_event_disable/enable
race with modify_user_hw_breakpoint/unregister_hw_breakpoint/etc ?
> Perhaps the real owner should be the task on which we attach our breakpoint.
Not sure... What for?
In any case, I don't think the tracee should "control" this event.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-09 16:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-08 14:56 Q: perf_event && task->ptrace_bps[] Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-08 14:57 ` Q: sys_perf_event_open() && PF_EXITING Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-19 18:21 ` [PATCH 0/2] Was: " Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf: fix find_get_context() vs perf_event_exit_task() race Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-19 18:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-19 19:18 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Fix " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 15:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-21 15:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 17:45 ` [PATCH] perf: perf_event_exit_task_context: s/rcu_dereference/rcu_dereference_raw/ Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 17:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 21:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-01-24 11:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 22:12 ` [tip:perf/urgent] " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-19 18:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf: fix perf_event_init_task()/perf_event_free_task() interaction Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-19 18:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-19 19:19 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Fix " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-20 19:30 ` Q: perf_install_in_context/perf_event_enable are racy? Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 12:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-21 13:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-21 13:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-21 14:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-21 20:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-24 11:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-26 17:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-26 18:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-26 18:51 ` [PATCH] fix the theoretical task_cpu/task_curr problem in kick_process/task_oncpu_function_call Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-26 19:05 ` Q: perf_install_in_context/perf_event_enable are racy? Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-26 19:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-26 19:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-26 21:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-26 21:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-27 10:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 12:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 16:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-27 16:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 16:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-27 15:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-27 13:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 14:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 14:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 16:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-27 17:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 22:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-28 11:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-28 14:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-28 16:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-28 18:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-31 17:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-31 18:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-31 19:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-31 19:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 14:03 ` [PATCH] perf: Cure task_oncpu_function_call() races Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 17:27 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-01 18:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 18:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 21:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-08 14:57 ` Q: perf_event && event->owner Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-08 20:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-08 20:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-09 16:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-09 15:57 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-11-09 16:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-09 16:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-09 17:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-09 17:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-09 18:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-09 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-09 19:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-10 15:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-10 15:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-12 15:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-12 18:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-18 14:09 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Fix owner-list vs exit tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-08 18:41 ` Q: perf_event && task->ptrace_bps[] Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-08 19:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-17 23:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-18 1:16 ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-17 20:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-17 20:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 21:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-18 16:09 ` [PATCH 0/2] perf: event->cpu checking fixes Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-18 16:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf: find_get_context: fix the per-cpu-counter check Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-18 19:06 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Find_get_context: " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-18 16:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf: validate cpu early in perf_event_alloc() Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-18 19:07 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Validate " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-18 18:42 ` Q: perf_event && task->ptrace_bps[] Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-19 15:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-19 20:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-20 17:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-28 17:41 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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