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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Prasad <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Q: perf_event && event->owner
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 16:57:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101109155714.GA1903@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101108201108.GA6777@nowhere>

On 11/08, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 03:57:54PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > Another thing I can't understand, event->owner/owner_entry.
> >
> > Say, some thread calls sys_perf_event_open() and creates the event.
> > It becomes its owner. Now this thread exits, but fd/event are still
> > here, and event->owner refers to the dead task_struct.
>
> Hmm, it seems to me that the last reference to the events are
> put in __perf_event_exit_task,

I think no, in this case sys_perf_event_open() owns the event. IOW,
perf_release() frees this perf_event. But this doesn't matter.

> and then free_event() is called
> there, which rcu queues the event to be released.
>
> Not sure where is the issue here.

I am not saying this is buggy. But it looks very strange to me.

If the creator of perf_event dies, nobody can use its ->perf_event_list
anyway. What is the point to keep the reference to the dead task_struct
and preserve this ->perf_event_list?

And why do we need ->owner at all? Afaics, it is _only_ needed to find
->perf_event_mutex in perf_event_release_kernel(). And this mutex only
protects ->perf_event_list (mostly for prctl).

Of course, I understand that it is not completely trivial to change this.
The exiting creator can clear its ->perf_event_list and set
event->owner = NULL, but then perf_event_release_kernel() should
avoid the races with do_exit() somehow.

> > ptrace looks even more strange. Debugger can attach the breakpoint
> > to the tracee and then exit/detach. ->ptrace_bps events still point
> > to the same (may be dead) task. Even if another debugger attaches
> > and reuses these events.
>
>
>
> Hmm, in this case ptrace_bps will continue to trigger on the task
> they were applied.
>
> On the other hand, you're right, I'm not sure that the debugger is
> the correct owner for the breakpoints.
> I think it works though, looking at perf_event_create_kernel_counter():
>
> 	event->owner = current;
> 	get_task_struct(current);
>
> (current is the debugger)
>
> On perf_event_release_kernel():
>
> 	put_task_struct(event->owner);
>
> So even if the debugger dies, we keep a valid owner, it works but just makes
> few sense as the debugger can change.

Yes, it works, but I am not sure about "valid" above ;) Even if the previous
debugger doesn't exit.

And. Suppose that the new debugger attaches and reuses ->ptrace_bps[],
everything works.

Now, the former debugger does prctl(PR_TASK_PERF_EVENTS_DISABLE) and
suddenly bps stop working.

Not to mention this looks racy. Can't prctl() doing perf_event_disable/enable
race with modify_user_hw_breakpoint/unregister_hw_breakpoint/etc ?

> Perhaps the real owner should be the task on which we attach our breakpoint.

Not sure... What for?

In any case, I don't think the tracee should "control" this event.

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-09 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-08 14:56 Q: perf_event && task->ptrace_bps[] Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-08 14:57 ` Q: sys_perf_event_open() && PF_EXITING Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-19 18:21   ` [PATCH 0/2] Was: " Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-19 18:22     ` [PATCH 1/2] perf: fix find_get_context() vs perf_event_exit_task() race Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-19 18:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-19 19:18       ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Fix " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 15:29         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-21 15:53           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 17:45             ` [PATCH] perf: perf_event_exit_task_context: s/rcu_dereference/rcu_dereference_raw/ Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 17:53               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 21:50                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-01-24 11:51                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 22:12               ` [tip:perf/urgent] " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-19 18:22     ` [PATCH 2/2] perf: fix perf_event_init_task()/perf_event_free_task() interaction Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-19 18:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-19 19:19       ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Fix " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-20 19:30     ` Q: perf_install_in_context/perf_event_enable are racy? Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 12:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-21 13:03         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-21 13:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-21 14:26             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-21 15:05               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-21 20:40                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-24 11:42                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-26 17:53                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-26 18:49                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-26 18:51                         ` [PATCH] fix the theoretical task_cpu/task_curr problem in kick_process/task_oncpu_function_call Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-26 19:05                         ` Q: perf_install_in_context/perf_event_enable are racy? Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-26 19:33                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-26 19:38                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-26 21:19                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-26 21:33                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-27 10:32                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 12:29                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 16:10                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-27 16:27                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 16:59                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-27 15:52                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-27 13:14                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 14:28                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 14:58                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 16:57                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-27 17:11                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-27 22:18                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-28 11:52                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-28 14:57                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-28 16:28                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-28 18:11                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-31 17:26                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-31 18:23                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-31 19:11                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-31 19:29                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 14:03                                               ` [PATCH] perf: Cure task_oncpu_function_call() races Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 17:27                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-01 18:08                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 18:18                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-01 21:00                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-08 14:57 ` Q: perf_event && event->owner Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-08 20:11   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-08 20:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-09 16:18       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-09 15:57     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-11-09 16:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-09 16:58         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-09 17:07           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-09 17:42             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-09 18:01               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-09 18:57                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-09 19:16                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-10 15:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-10 15:44                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-12 15:48                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-12 18:49                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-18 14:09                         ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Fix owner-list vs exit tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-08 18:41 ` Q: perf_event && task->ptrace_bps[] Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-08 19:18   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-17 23:58     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-18  1:16       ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-17 20:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-17 20:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 21:01     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-18 16:09     ` [PATCH 0/2] perf: event->cpu checking fixes Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-18 16:10       ` [PATCH 1/2] perf: find_get_context: fix the per-cpu-counter check Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-18 19:06         ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Find_get_context: " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-18 16:10       ` [PATCH 2/2] perf: validate cpu early in perf_event_alloc() Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-18 19:07         ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf: Validate " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-18 18:42   ` Q: perf_event && task->ptrace_bps[] Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-19 15:37     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-19 20:05       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-20 17:28         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-28 17:41           ` Frederic Weisbecker

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