From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com>,
matthieu castet <castet.matthieu@free.fr>
Cc: Siarhei Liakh <sliakh.lkml@gmail.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Security] proactive defense: using read-only memory, RO/NX modules
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:04:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101110090415.GC8370@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101108214228.GQ5876@outflux.net>
* Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 07:13:24AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Kees Cook <kees.cook@canonical.com> wrote:
> > > While Dan Rosenberg is working to make things harder to locate potential targets
> > > in the kernel through fixing kernel address leaks[1], I'd like to approach a
> > > related proactive security measure: enforcing read-only memory for things that
> > > would make good targets.
> >
> > Nice! IMHO we need more of that. (If the readonly section gets big enough in
> > practice we could perhaps even mark it large-page in the future. It could serve as
> > an allocator to module code as well - that would probably be a speedup even for
> > modules.)
>
> Well, I can try to extract and send what PaX does, but it seems relatively
> incompatible with the existing system that uses set_kernel_text_rw() and
> friends.
>
> > > - Modules need to be correctly marked RO/NX. This patch exists[3], but is
> > > not in mainline. It needs to be in mainline.
> > [...]
> > >
> > > [3] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/x86/linux-2.6-tip.git;a=commitdiff;h=65187d24fa3ef60f691f847c792e8eaca7e19251
> >
> > The reason the RO/NX patch from Siarhei Liakh is not upstream yet is rather mundane:
> > it introduced regressions - it caused boot crashes on one of my testboxes.
> >
> > But there is no fundamental reason why it shouldnt be upstream. We can push it
> > upstream if the crashes are resolved and if it gets an Ack from Rusty or Linus
> > for the module bits.
>
> Oh, well, yes, that's a good reason. :) Where was this covered? I'd like to help
> get it reproduced and ironed out.
Matthieu Castet seems to have dusted off those patches and submitted two of them in
this mail:
Subject: [RFC] reworked NX protection for kernel data
Matthieu, are you still interested in this topic?
The original, broken patches were these -tip commits:
1e858c081af5: x86, mm: RO/NX protection for loadable kernel modules
18c60ddc9eff: x86, mm: NX protection for kernel data
c226a2feba21: x86, mm: Set first MB as RW+NX
b29d530510d4: x86, mm: Correcting improper large page preservation
I reported one of the crashes in:
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/mm] x86, mm: Set first MB as RW+NX
on lkml.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-10 9:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-07 19:35 [Security] proactive defense: using read-only memory Kees Cook
2010-11-08 6:13 ` [Security] proactive defense: using read-only memory, RO/NX modules Ingo Molnar
2010-11-08 10:03 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-08 21:42 ` Kees Cook
2010-11-10 9:04 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-11-11 6:56 ` Kees Cook
2010-11-11 9:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-13 19:59 ` matthieu castet
2010-11-14 9:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 10:00 ` [Security] proactive defense: using read-only memory Pavel Machek
2010-11-17 22:14 ` Kees Cook
2011-01-02 9:09 ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-18 0:12 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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