From: Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: fweisbec@gmail.com, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] watchdog: touch_nmi_watchdog should only touch local cpu not every one
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:03:52 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101110190352.GA31794@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101110180711.GB22410@elte.hu>
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 07:07:11PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hm, the flip side is that if a CPU is stuck spewing backtraces, we will now make
> > > all the other CPUs a lot more noisy - which might only 'lock up' because this
> > > CPU is stuck spewing oopses, right?
> >
> > When you say the other CPUs will be a lot more noisy, is that because they are
> > busy processing backtraces for the first cpu to spew? I guess I don't understand
> > how the other CPUs could have their interrupts off the whole time while the first
> > cpu is spewing a backtrace (just trying to educate myself).
>
> Say the kernel crashes on a CPU and keeps spewing new oopses, while write-holding
> tasklist_lock.
>
> Any other CPU that delivers a signal from IRQ context, trying to take the
> tasklist_lock, will loop indefinitely until that crashing CPU releases the lock.
>
> In that case the 'secondary' NMI warnings from all other CPUs (eventually every CPU
> gets stuck in such a scenario) will start spewing NMI lockup messages.
>
> Dunno. Maybe we should do your change - but also have an option to 'shut up' the
> kernel after the first hard oops [not warning]. That would silence the secondary NMI
> watchdog messages as well.
You mean inside the panic() routine? like a ratelimit?
Cheers,
Don
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-10 19:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-08 18:28 [PATCH v3] watchdog: touch_nmi_watchdog should only touch local cpu not every one Don Zickus
2010-11-10 7:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-10 15:08 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-10 16:05 ` Don Zickus
2010-11-10 18:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-10 19:03 ` Don Zickus [this message]
2010-11-10 19:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-15 18:23 ` Don Zickus
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