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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
	Yuanhan Liu <yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	mingo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Delegate unknown module parameters to interested parties
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:05:08 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201011111105.09255.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1289397360.12418.119.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:26:00 am Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 16:21 +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 01:09:21 am Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > [ Added Rusty "Module God" Russell ]
> > 
> > And I also wrote the parameter parsing code, so sending to me is probably
> > a good idea.
> > 
> > So, what's this for?  You want trace= as a standard module parameter
> 
> Yep, this way we could even enable tracepoints that are in the init
> section.

*Exactly* how would it be used though?  Please provide a synopsis for
someone unaware of what tracing does these days?

Because we could compile an extra module_parm() into the module using
modpost, for example, at a cost of an extra 16/32 bytes per module.

> But, personally, I like the generic addition. Perhaps others will hook into
> it without fear of having to hack the module code, which can be quite
> intimidating to some.

We *all* want to build infrastructure; when other coders are forced to use
it we rise up the kernel dominance hierarchy. Ook ook!  (Every Unix app has
its own config language for the same reason: the author distils the mental
sweat of the users into some kind of Elixer of Coder Hubris).

Yet abstractions obfuscate: let's resist our primal urges to add another
speed hump on the lengthening road to kernel expertese.

And this one's classicly easy: in single uses cases we always get the
infrastructure wrong for future users anyway, so let's not do it until
we have more than one user.

Cheers,
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-11  0:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-09  9:12 [PATCH 1/4] tracing: introduce for_each_token macro Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] tracing: introduce trace_set_clr_module_event Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09 11:23   ` Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09 11:27     ` Chris Wilson
2010-11-09 13:20       ` Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09 13:31         ` Chris Wilson
2010-11-09 13:56           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-09 14:06             ` Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09 13:59           ` Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09 14:01             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-09 14:11           ` [PATCH] Delegate unknown module parameters to interested parties Chris Wilson
2010-11-09 14:39             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-10  5:51               ` Rusty Russell
2010-11-10 13:56                 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-11  0:35                   ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2010-11-11  1:05                     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH 3/4] tracing: update trace-events-sample.c Yuanhan Liu
2010-11-09  9:12 ` [PATCH 4/4] tracing: update the trace/events.txt documentation Yuanhan Liu

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