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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace'
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:30:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101117083020.GA11336@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101116221726.GB26243@nowhere>


* Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:27:35PM -0800, Darren Hart wrote:
> > On 11/16/2010 01:04 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >> We are pleased to announce a new tracing tool called 'trace'.
> >>
> >
> > Hi Thomas, Ingo - Congrats and Thanks!
> >
> >> At this point we'd like to ask for feedback from other users of tracing tools,
> >> which workflow components would you like to see in addition to what the 'trace'
> >> tool is offering?
> >>
> >> Comments, bug reports, suggestions welcome,
> >
> > The first thing that comes to mind is trace_marker:
> >
> > echo "Test point A" > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace_marker
> >
> > I've found this sort of markup to be useful using ftrace (with C  
> > equivalents embedded in the test case). Is this supported?
> 
> 
> No, the trace_marker file sends trace_printk events. And trace_printk
> events needs to be converted to use the unified trace event interface
> (ie: implement a struct ftrace_event_call).
> 
> This shouldn't be so hard, and there are several ways we could do this.
> 
> An idea is to reproduce the kernel file hierarchy in a "printk" event
> subsystem, but this implies to allow subsystems nesting.
> 
> Imagine you have two trace_printk(), one in kernel/sched.c:117
> and one in kernel/time/tick-sched.c:228
> The result would be:
> 
> $ ls /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/printk
> 
> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/printk:
> enable  filter  kernel/
> 
> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/printk/kernel:
> enable  filter sched.c/ time/
> 
> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/printk/kernel/sched.c:
> enable  filter  117/
> 
> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/printk/kernel/sched.c/117:
> enable filter format id
> 
> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/printk/kernel/time:
> enable  filter tick-sched.c/
> 
> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/printk/kernel/time/tick-sched.c:
> enable  filter  228/
> 
> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/printk/kernel/time/tick-sched.c/228:
> enable filter format id
> 
> 
> The format would be quite easy, and only one field for the whole string (strloc).
> 
> Not sure what to do with trace_marker. I just think we can add it as:
> /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/printk/sys/kernel/debug/tracing/trace_marker
> 
> <:o)
> 
> 
> But may be the whole idea is just fancy and nobody will care, [...]

I think it's an excellent idea, and it could also give us the framework to integrate 
the dynamic_printk points.

> [...] and would just a simple single event in a printk subsystem, on which you can 
> use a kind of virtual filter:
> 
> 	echo "path != kernel/whatever.c:226" > /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/printk/filter
> 
> would turn on every trace_printk() but the one in the given path.
> 
> Dunno, I like both ideas. I prefer the first one which looks to me more flexible: 
> could be useful to list the user his trace_printks for example and implement an 
> interface for him to quickly select the trace_printk he wants.

I prefer the first one too.

> For example I'm currently working with dozens of trace_printk() and I would be 
> very happy to turn some of them off half of the time.

I guess we could try such a patch. If you send a prototype i'd be interested in 
testing it out.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-17  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-16 21:04 [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace' Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-16 21:27 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 21:59   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-16 22:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 22:08       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-16 22:09       ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:48         ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:07     ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:17   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17  8:30     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-11-17 11:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:53         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:02           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:10             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:36               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:43                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:53                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:10                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 15:02                       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 18:13                       ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 18:29                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 18:30                           ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 16:49             ` Darren Hart
2010-11-18 23:23       ` Joe Perches
2010-11-16 21:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17  1:37 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17  1:47   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17  3:16     ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17  3:34       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 19:00         ` Bob Copeland
2010-11-17 13:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 14:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:37             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-17 14:41               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 15:41               ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 15:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:58                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-17 16:20                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:59                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 16:08                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:10           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 15:43             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 16:04               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 16:15               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 19:40                 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 18:23               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-18  5:58                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-11-18  6:00               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-11-17 15:33           ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 18:36             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-17 18:53               ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 19:02                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-17 19:25                   ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 19:25               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17  9:49 ` Philipp Marek
     [not found] ` <4CE38C53.8090606@kernel.org>
2010-11-17 12:07   ` [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:17     ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:30       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:33         ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:58             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:36                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:30       ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:10       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:33           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-18  1:18     ` Darren Hart
2010-11-18  8:55       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-18 16:25         ` hp
2010-11-18 18:56           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-18 19:13             ` AW: " Reichert, Hans-Peter
2010-11-18 17:06         ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 12:47 ` [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace' Török Edwin
2010-11-17 12:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:05     ` Török Edwin
2010-11-17 13:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:32   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-18  0:47 ` Ian Munsie
     [not found]   ` <20101118151141.GA3368@redhat.com>
2010-11-19  2:32     ` Ian Munsie
2010-11-19 15:23       ` Jason Baron
     [not found]       ` <4CECACF9.3080907@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]         ` <4CFD7182.4060206@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2010-12-07  4:03           ` PowerPC, ftrace: Add PPC raw syscall tracepoints & ftrace fixes Ian Munsie

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