From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
Kapil Arya <kapil@ccs.neu.edu>, Gene Cooperman <gene@ccs.neu.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
xemul@sw.ru
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2010-discuss] checkpoint-restart: naked patch
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:39:02 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101117153902.GA1155@hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CE3C334.9080401@kernel.org>
Quoting Tejun Heo (tj@kernel.org):
> Hello, Oren.
>
> On 11/07/2010 10:59 PM, Oren Laadan wrote:
> > We could work to add ABIs and APIs for each and every possible piece
> > of state that affects userspace. And for each we'll argue forever
> > about the design and some time later regret that it wasn't designed
> > correctly :p
>
> I'm sorry but in-kernel CR already looks like a major misdesign to me.
By this do you mean the very idea of having CR support in the kernel?
Or our design of it in the kernel? Let's go back to July 2008, at the
containers mini-summit, where it was unanimously agreed upon that the
kernel was the right place (Checkpoint/Resetart [CR] under
http://wiki.openvz.org/Containers/Mini-summit_2008_notes ), and that
we would start by supporting a single task with no resources. Was that
whole discussion effectively misguided, in your opinion? Or do you
feel that since the first steps outlined in that discussion we've
either "gone too far" or strayed in the subsequent design?
-serge
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2010-11-02 21:35 ` [Ksummit-2010-discuss] checkpoint-restart: naked patch Tejun Heo
2010-11-02 21:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-04 1:47 ` Nathan Lynch
2010-11-04 7:36 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-04 16:04 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-04 20:45 ` Nathan Lynch
2010-11-06 6:48 ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-04 4:34 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-04 14:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-04 3:40 ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-04 8:05 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-04 16:44 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-05 9:28 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-05 23:18 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-06 10:13 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-06 0:36 ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-06 22:55 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 19:42 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-07 21:30 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 23:05 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-08 3:55 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 16:26 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-08 18:14 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 18:37 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-08 19:34 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 19:05 ` Dan Smith
2010-11-17 11:14 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 15:33 ` Dan Smith
2010-11-17 15:40 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 17:04 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-17 10:45 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 12:12 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-06 5:32 ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-06 15:01 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-06 20:40 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-06 22:41 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 18:49 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-07 21:59 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-17 11:57 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 15:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2010-11-17 15:46 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 9:13 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-11-18 9:48 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 20:13 ` Jose R. Santos
2010-11-19 3:54 ` Serge Hallyn
2010-11-18 19:53 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-19 4:10 ` Serge Hallyn
2010-11-19 14:04 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 14:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2010-11-19 15:33 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:00 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:01 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:10 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:25 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:06 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:16 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:19 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:27 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:32 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:38 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:50 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:55 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-20 17:58 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:05 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:08 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:11 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:15 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 19:33 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-21 8:18 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21 8:21 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-22 18:02 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-11-23 17:53 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-24 3:50 ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-25 16:04 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-29 4:09 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21 22:41 ` Grant Likely
2010-11-22 17:34 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-22 17:18 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-17 22:17 ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-18 10:06 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 20:25 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 21:44 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 23:31 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-05 22:24 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-04 4:03 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-04 9:43 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-04 12:48 ` Luck, Tony
2010-11-04 13:06 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-06 10:12 ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-06 11:03 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-07 22:59 ` Davide Libenzi
2010-11-08 2:32 ` david
2010-11-18 20:41 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-05 3:55 ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-05 11:57 ` Luck, Tony
2010-11-05 17:17 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-06 1:16 ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-06 4:06 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-06 5:18 ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-06 21:00 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-05 17:31 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-11-06 21:05 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 16:55 ` Grant Likely
2010-11-08 21:01 ` Nathan Lynch
2010-11-11 6:27 ` Nathan Lynch
2010-11-17 5:29 ` Anton Blanchard
2010-11-17 11:08 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 9:53 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-18 12:27 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 6:33 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21 23:20 ` Grant Likely
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