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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Michael Holzheu <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Shailabh Nagar <nagar1234@in.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@google.com>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, John stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 5/7] taskstats: Improve cumulative CPU time accounting
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:10:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101118171001.GB3249@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1289926635.1940.100.camel@holzheu-laptop>

Sorry for delay.

On 11/16, Michael Holzheu wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 19:38 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > First of all, let me repeat, I am not going to discuss whether we need
> > these changes or not, I do not know even if I understand your motivation.
>
> Sorry, if I was not clear enough with my descriptions. Let me try to
> describe my motivation again:

Yes, more or less I see what this patch does (I hope ;).

> 2. Because of reparent to init, there are situations where it is
>    not clear to which tasks the CPU time of dead tasks between
>    two snapshots has been accounted. This is a problem for example 2.

Yes, I see.

But I must admit, _personally_ I am not sure this problem worth the
trouble. And, I already mentioned daemonize() case, IOW I am not sure
it is _always_ right to choose exiting_parent->parent for accounting.
To me, this can be equally confusing. A user sees the running deamon
with ppid = 1, then this daemon exits and top reports the "unrelated"
process as cpu consumer.


But once again. I am _not_ against this patch. I never know when it
comes to new features. Certainly you know better if this suits top.

What I actually meant is: dear CC list, please look at this change
and comment ;)

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-18 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-11 17:03 [RFC][PATCH v2 0/7] taskstats: Enhancements for precise process accounting (version 2) Michael Holzheu
2010-11-11 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 1/7] taskstats: Add new taskstats command TASKSTATS_CMD_ATTR_PIDS Michael Holzheu
2010-11-13 19:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 15:53     ` Michael Holzheu
2010-11-15 16:06       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 17:09         ` Michael Holzheu
2010-11-15 17:21           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 12:16             ` Michael Holzheu
2010-11-16 12:36               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-13 19:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-13 20:00     ` Balbir Singh
2010-11-15 14:50     ` Michael Holzheu
2010-11-11 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 2/7] taskstats: Add "/proc/taskstats" Michael Holzheu
2010-11-11 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 3/7] taskstats: Add thread group ID to taskstats structure Michael Holzheu
2010-11-11 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 4/7] taskstats: Add per task steal time accounting Michael Holzheu
2010-11-13 19:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 14:50     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-11-15 15:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 17:42         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-11-15 17:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 17:47           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 17:48           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 17:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 17:59             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-11-15 18:08               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16  8:51                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-11-16 12:16                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 15:33                     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-11-16 15:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 16:05                         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-11-16 18:39                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-11-16 16:38                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-16 16:43                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 16:56                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-16 17:06                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-11 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 5/7] taskstats: Improve cumulative CPU " Michael Holzheu
2010-11-13 18:38   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-15 15:55     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-11-15 16:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 17:49         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-11-15 17:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15 18:00             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-11-15 18:10               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16  8:54                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2010-11-16 16:57     ` Michael Holzheu
2010-11-18 17:10       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-11-19 19:46         ` Michael Holzheu
2010-11-16 17:34     ` Michael Holzheu
2010-11-16 17:50       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-18 16:34       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-11 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 6/7] taskstats: Fix accounting for non-leader thread exec Michael Holzheu
2010-11-11 17:11 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 7/7] taskstats: Precise process accounting user space Michael Holzheu

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