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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Hardware error record persistent support
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:01:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101119120112.77f2636f.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikPTYLELKMLOeB868rW9cN40897TRg0dtuN=zQQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 07:52:08 -0800
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:10 AM, Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> > Normally, corrected hardware error records will go through the kernel
> > processing and be logged to disk or network finally. __But for
> > uncorrected errors, system may go panic directly for better error
> > containment, disk or network is not usable in this half-working
> > system. __To avoid losing these valuable hardware error records, the
> > error records are saved into some kind of simple persistent storage
> > such as flash before panic, so that they can be read out after system
> > reboot successfully.
> 
> I think this is totally the wrong thing to do. TOTALLY.
> 
> The fact is, concentrating about "hardware errors" makes this
> something that I refuse to merge. It's such an idiotic approach that
> it's disgusting.
> 
> Now, if this was designed to be a "hardware-backed persistent 'printk'
> buffer", and was explicitly meant to save not just some special
> hardware error, but catch all printk's (which may be due to hardware
> errors or oopses or warnings or whatever), that would be useful.
> 
> But limiting it to just some special source of errors makes this
> pointless and not ever worth merging.
> 

yep.  We already have bits and pieces in place for this: kmsg_dump,
ramoops, mtdoops, etc.  If your hardware has a non-volatile memory then
just hook it up as a backend driver for kmsg_dump.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-19 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-19  8:10 [PATCH 0/2] Generic hardware error reporting support Huang Ying
2010-11-19  8:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] Generic hardware error reporting mechanism Huang Ying
2010-11-19  8:45   ` Huang Ying
2010-11-19 13:56   ` boris
2010-11-20  2:52     ` huang ying
2010-11-20  9:00       ` Borislav Petkov
2010-11-20 11:51         ` huang ying
2010-11-19  8:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] Hardware error record persistent support Huang Ying
2010-11-19 15:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-19 20:01     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-11-20  1:09     ` huang ying
2010-11-19  8:13 ` [PATCH 0/2] Generic hardware error reporting support Huang Ying
2010-11-19 11:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 11:54   ` huang ying
2010-11-19 12:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 12:48       ` huang ying
2010-11-19 12:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 13:06           ` huang ying
2010-11-19 13:18             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 13:28               ` huang ying
2010-11-19 13:37                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-19 13:49                   ` huang ying
2010-11-19 15:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-20  2:04   ` huang ying
2010-11-20  2:15     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-20  7:11       ` huang ying
2010-11-20 13:39         ` Mark Lord
2010-11-20 23:44           ` huang ying
2010-11-25  4:19           ` Len Brown
     [not found]         ` <AANLkTinAZgHbexU+LTUZHs-+7C0N990=kyuO-USV1Ncp@mail.gmail.com>
2010-11-20 23:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-21  0:42             ` huang ying
2010-11-21  0:50               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-21  1:06                 ` huang ying
2010-11-22 23:43                   ` Mark Lord
2010-11-23  0:29                     ` Huang Ying
2010-11-25  2:41                       ` Mark Lord
2010-11-25  4:27                         ` Len Brown
2010-11-30 15:09                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2010-11-25  4:35                         ` Huang Ying
2010-11-21  0:50   ` Elias Gabriel Amaral da Silva

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