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From: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Gene Cooperman <gene@ccs.neu.edu>
Cc: Kapil Arya <kapil@ccs.neu.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xemul@sw.ru,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2010-discuss] checkpoint-restart: naked patch
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:02:41 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101122180241.GA25301@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101121082143.GB21672@sundance.ccs.neu.edu>

Gene Cooperman [gene@ccs.neu.edu] wrote:
| > RELIABILITY     checkpoint w/ single syscall;   non-atomic, cannot find leaks
| >                 atomic operation. guaranteed    to determine restartability
| >                 restartability for containers
| 
| My understanding is that the guarantees apply for Linux containers, but not
| for a tree of processes.  Does this imply that linux-cr would have some
| of the same reliability issues as DMTCP for a tree of processes?  (I mean
| the question sincerely, and am not intending to be rude.)  In any case,
| won't DMTCP and Linux C/R have to handle orthogonal reliability issues
| such as external database, time virtualization, and other examples
| from our previous post?

Yes if the user attempts to checkpoint a partial container (what we refer
to process subtree) or fails to snapshot/restore filesystem there could be
leaks that we cannot detect.

But one guarantee we are trying to provide is that if the user checkpoints
a _complete_ container, then we will detect a leak if one exists.

Is there a way to establish a set of constraints (eg: run application in a
container, snapshot/restore filesystem) and then provide leak detection with
a pure userpsace implementation ?

Sukadev

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-22 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.64.1011021530470.12128@takamine.ncl.cs.columbia.edu>
2010-11-02 21:35 ` [Ksummit-2010-discuss] checkpoint-restart: naked patch Tejun Heo
2010-11-02 21:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-04  1:47     ` Nathan Lynch
2010-11-04  7:36       ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-04 16:04         ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-04 20:45         ` Nathan Lynch
2010-11-06  6:48           ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-04  4:34     ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-04 14:25       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-04  3:40   ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-04  8:05     ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-04 16:44       ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-05  9:28         ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-05 23:18           ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-06 10:13             ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-06  0:36           ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-06 22:55             ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 19:42               ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-07 21:30                 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 23:05                   ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-08  3:55                     ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 16:26                       ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-08 18:14                         ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 18:37                           ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-08 19:34                             ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 19:05                         ` Dan Smith
2010-11-17 11:14                           ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 15:33                             ` Dan Smith
2010-11-17 15:40                               ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 17:04                                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-17 10:45             ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 12:12               ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-06  5:32           ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-06 15:01             ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-06 20:40             ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-06 22:41               ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 18:49                 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-07 21:59                   ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-17 11:57                     ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-17 15:39                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-11-17 15:46                         ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18  9:13                           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-11-18  9:48                             ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 20:13                               ` Jose R. Santos
2010-11-19  3:54                               ` Serge Hallyn
2010-11-18 19:53                           ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-19  4:10                           ` Serge Hallyn
2010-11-19 14:04                             ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 14:36                               ` Kirill Korotaev
2010-11-19 15:33                                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:00                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:01                                     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:10                                       ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:25                                         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:06                                     ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:16                                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:19                                         ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:27                                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:32                                             ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:38                                               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19 16:50                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-19 16:55                                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-20 17:58                                   ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:05                               ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:08                               ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:11                               ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 18:15                                 ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-20 19:33                                   ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-21  8:18                                     ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21  8:21                                       ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-22 18:02                                         ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu [this message]
2010-11-23 17:53                                         ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-24  3:50                                           ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-25 16:04                                             ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-29  4:09                                               ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21 22:41                                       ` Grant Likely
2010-11-22 17:34                                       ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-22 17:18                                     ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-17 22:17                       ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-18 10:06                         ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18 20:25                         ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 21:44               ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-07 23:31                 ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-05 22:24       ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-04  4:03   ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-04  9:43     ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-04 12:48       ` Luck, Tony
2010-11-04 13:06         ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-06 10:12       ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-06 11:03         ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-07 22:59         ` Davide Libenzi
2010-11-08  2:32           ` david
2010-11-18 20:41             ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-05  3:55     ` Kapil Arya
2010-11-05 11:57       ` Luck, Tony
2010-11-05 17:17         ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-06  1:16           ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-06  4:06             ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-06  5:18               ` Matt Helsley
2010-11-06 21:00           ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-05 17:31       ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-11-06 21:05       ` Oren Laadan
2010-11-08 16:55 ` Grant Likely
2010-11-08 21:01   ` Nathan Lynch
2010-11-11  6:27   ` Nathan Lynch
2010-11-17  5:29   ` Anton Blanchard
2010-11-17 11:08     ` Tejun Heo
2010-11-18  9:53     ` Alan Cox
2010-11-18 12:27       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-19  6:33     ` Gene Cooperman
2010-11-21 23:20     ` Grant Likely

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