From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] rcu: Fix series of spurious RCU softirqs
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:58:24 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101125145824.GD2162@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101125092706.GH2538@nowhere>
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 10:27:08AM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 04:35:30PM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> > On 11/25/2010 03:38 PM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:42:34AM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> > >> On 11/24/2010 08:31 AM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I've observed some not so unfrequent series of spurious rcu
> > >>> softirqs, sometimes happening at each ticks for a random
> > >>> while.
> > >>>
> > >>> These patches aims at fixing them.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks.
> > >>>
> > >>> Frederic Weisbecker (2):
> > >>> rcu: Don't chase unnecessary quiescent states after extended grace periods
> > >>> rcu: Stop checking quiescent states after grace period completion from remote
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> If we ensure rdp->gpnum >= rdp->completed is always true, the problems as
> > >> you described will not be existed. Or maybe I misunderstand you.
> > >>
> > >> rdp->gpnum >= rdp->completed is a very important guarantee I think.
> > >> (In my RCURING, it is guaranteed.) I'm afraid there are some other
> > >> problems still hidden if it is not guaranteed.
> > >>
> > >> so I recommend: (code is better than words)
> > >>
> > >> diff --git a/kernel/rcutree.c b/kernel/rcutree.c
> > >> index d5bc439..af4e87a 100644
> > >> --- a/kernel/rcutree.c
> > >> +++ b/kernel/rcutree.c
> > >> @@ -648,6 +648,13 @@ __rcu_process_gp_end(struct rcu_state *rsp, struct rcu_node *rnp, struct rcu_dat
> > >>
> > >> /* Remember that we saw this grace-period completion. */
> > >> rdp->completed = rnp->completed;
> > >> +
> > >> + /* Ensure ->gpnum >= ->completed after NO_HZ */
> > >> + if (unlikely(rnp->completed - rdp->gpnum > 0
> > >> + || rdp->gpnum - rnp->gpnum > 0)) {
> > >> + rdp->gpnum = rnp->completed;
> > >> + rdp->qs_pending = 0;
> > >
> > >
> > > That's an alternative to my first patch yeah.
> >
> > Since rdp->gpnum >= rdp->completed is guaranteed.
> > your second patch is not needed, the problem is also fixed.
> >
> > if rnp->gpnum == rnp->completed, rcu_report_qs_rdp() will not be called.
> > it is because rdp->qs_pending == 0 when rnp->gpnum == rnp->completed.
>
>
> Aaah...
>
>
> >
> > And if rdp->gpnum >= rdp->completed
> > > must be a guarantee outside the rnp lock, then it's certainly better because
> > > the lock is relaxed between rcu_process_gp_end() and note_new_gpnum(), and
> > > both values are async in this lockless frame.
> > >
> > > But perhaps this shouldn't touch rdp->qs_pending:
> >
> > if rdp->gpnum == rnp->completed, it means we don't need a qs for rdp->gpnum,
> > it is completed. so we must set rdp->qs_pending = 0;
> >
> > when we really need a qs, rdp->qs_pending will be fixed in note_new_gp_new().
>
>
> Ok that makes all sense now!
>
> I'm just not sure about your check above.
>
> (rdp->gpnum - rnp->gpnum > 0) can never happen, right?
>
> Also perhaps we should set rdp->qs_pending = 0 only if
> rnp->completed == rdp->completed?
>
> Which in the end would be:
>
> /* Remember that we saw this grace-period completion. */
> rdp->completed = rnp->completed;
>
> + if (rdp->gpnum < rdp->completed)
> + rdp->gpnum = rdp->completed;
> +
> + if (rdp->gpnum == rdp->completed)
> + rdp->qs_pending = 0;
>
>
> And then if there is a new grace period to handle, this will
> be done through note_new_pgnum().
>
> Hm?
Given that it is Thanksgiving holiday here in USA, I am going to give you
guys a several days to come to agreement on this. Then I will inspect
the resulting patch. ;-)
Thanx, Paul
prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-25 14:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-24 0:31 [PATCH 0/2] rcu: Fix series of spurious RCU softirqs Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-24 0:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] rcu: Don't chase unnecessary quiescent states after extended grace periods Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-24 0:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-11-24 2:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-24 2:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-24 6:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-11-24 13:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-24 14:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-11-24 15:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-24 16:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-11-24 17:38 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-24 18:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-11-24 20:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-11-24 20:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-24 21:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-11-24 21:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-24 22:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-25 14:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-11-26 14:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-29 23:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-11-24 0:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] rcu: Stop checking quiescent states after grace period completion from remote Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-24 1:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-11-25 3:42 ` [PATCH 0/2] rcu: Fix series of spurious RCU softirqs Lai Jiangshan
2010-11-25 7:38 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-25 8:35 ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-11-25 9:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-25 14:58 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
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