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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Linux-pm mailing list" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] PM: Permit registrarion of parentless devices during system suspend
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:02:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201012142102.07804.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1012132205000.28712-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

On Tuesday, December 14, 2010, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Dec 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > On Monday, December 13, 2010, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> > > > 
> > > > The registration of a new parentless device during system suspend
> > > > will not lead to any complications affecting the PM core (the device
> > > > will be effectively seen after the subsequent resume has completed),
> > > > so remove the code used for detection of such events.
> > > 
> > > Actually the tests you're changing were never as strong as they should
> > > have been.  Drivers are supposed to avoid registering new children
> > > beneath a device as soon as the device has gone through the "prepare"
> > > stage, not just after the device is suspended.  Should there be a 
> > > "prepared" bitflag to help implement this stronger test?
> > 
> > The in_suspend flag introduced by [3/4] works like this, actually.
> 
> Not entirely, because it doesn't get set until the device has gone 
> through the "suspend" stage.
> 
> > > In principle the same idea applies to parentless devices, since they
> > > can be considered children of the "system device" (a fictitious node at
> > > the root of the device tree).  The "system" goes into the prepared
> > > state before all the real devices; that's what the transition_started
> > > variable was all about.  It's nothing more than the "prepared" bitflag
> > > for the "system device".
> > 
> > It has never worked like this, because it was cleared as early as at the
> > _noirq() stage.
> 
> That was part of our lenient approach, allowing devices to be 
> registered during system resume earlier than the documentation says 
> they should be.
> 
> > Hmm.  It looks like I should modify [3/4] to clear the in_suspend flag earlier
> > to follow the current behavior (if a device is DPM_RESUMING, registration of
> > new children doesn't trigger the warning).
> 
> You could clear in_suspend at the start of device_resume.
> 
> In the end, it's a question of what are we trying to accomplish.  The
> warnings catch the most egregious violations of the documented
> requirements.  Is the purpose to let people know about the violations,
> or is it to warn about actions that appear genuinely dangerous?

I'd say the latter, like trying to register a device (child) under a suspended
controller (parent).  However, I think the new code shouldn't trigger the
warning when the old code didin't or people will report that as an apparent
issue.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-14 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-13  0:28 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] PM: Use separate lists of devices at each stage of suspend/resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-12-13  0:29 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] PM: Use a different list of devices for each stage of device suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-12-13  3:40   ` Alan Stern
2010-12-13  3:46     ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-12-13  0:31 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] PM: Remove redundant checks from core device resume routines Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-12-13  1:34   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-13 22:58     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-12-14 10:37     ` Ming Lei
2010-12-14 19:58       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-12-15 14:12         ` Ming Lei
2010-12-13  0:32 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] PM: Replace the device power.status filed with a bit field Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-12-13  0:33 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] PM: Permit registrarion of parentless devices during system suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-12-13  4:09   ` Alan Stern
2010-12-13 23:05     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-12-14  3:19       ` Alan Stern
2010-12-14 20:02         ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-12-15  0:34         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-12-15 20:58           ` Alan Stern
2010-12-13  1:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] PM: Use separate lists of devices at each stage of suspend/resume Linus Torvalds

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