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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
	dhowells@redhat.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, darren@dvhart.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 13/20] rcu: increase synchronize_sched_expedited() batching
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 08:40:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101220134051.GA29577@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1292841231.2708.136.camel@laptop>

* Peter Zijlstra (peterz@infradead.org) wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-12-19 at 08:35 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > >  (int)((unsigned)(a) - (unsigned)(b)) < 0
> > 
> > Unfortunately, no.  :-(
> > 
> > The (int) converts from unsigned to signed, and if the upper bit of
> > the unsigned difference is non-zero, then the paragraph I quoted above
> > applies, and the standard allows the compiler to do whatever it wants.
> > 
> As noted in the previous reply, that would render quite a lot of our
> time-keeping code broken. I think its safe to assume this works.
> 
> Look at time_after() for example:
> 
> #define time_after(a,b)		\
> 	(typecheck(unsigned long, a) && \
> 	 typecheck(unsigned long, b) && \
> 	 ((long)(b) - (long)(a) < 0))

I agree with Peter: as long as the difference value is expected not to
overflow a signed long, the time_after() approach should be safe.

Now it depends if the usage Paul spotted is expected to have a
difference that overflows a signed int. It's not clear to me that it's
realistically possible from reading the patch, but I might be missing
something.

And by the way, if the difference is expected to overflow a signed int,
then we're only a factor two away from overflowing an unsigned int, so
the whole approach would be fragile.

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-20 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-17 20:54 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/20] second preview of RCU patches for 2.6.38 Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 01/20] rcu: add priority-inversion testing to rcutorture Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 02/20] rcu: move TINY_RCU from softirq to kthread Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 03/20] rcu: priority boosting for TINY_PREEMPT_RCU Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 04/20] rcu: add tracing for TINY_RCU and TINY_PREEMPT_RCU Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 05/20] rcu: document TINY_RCU and TINY_PREEMPT_RCU tracing Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 06/20] rcu: Distinguish between boosting and boosted Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 07/20] rcu: get rid of obsolete "classic" names in TREE_RCU tracing Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 08/20] rcu,cleanup: move synchronize_sched_expedited() out of sched.c Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 09/20] rcu,cleanup: simplify the code when cpu is dying Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 10/20] rcu: update documentation/comments for Lai's adoption patch Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 11/20] rcu: fix race condition in synchronize_sched_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-18 15:52   ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-18 19:58     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 12/20] rcu: Make synchronize_srcu_expedited() fast if running readers Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 13/20] rcu: increase synchronize_sched_expedited() batching Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-18 16:13   ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-18 20:14     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-19  9:43       ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-19 16:35         ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-20 10:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 13:40             ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-12-20 10:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21  7:58           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 14/20] rcu: Stop chasing QS if another CPU did it for us Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 15/20] rcu: Keep gpnum and completed fields synchronized Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-20  2:13   ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-12-20  2:14     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:51     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 16/20] rcu: fine-tune grace-period begin/end checks Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 17/20] rcu: limit rcu_node leaf-level fanout Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 18/20] rcu: reduce __call_rcu()-induced contention on rcu_node structures Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 19/20] rculist: fix borked __list_for_each_rcu() macro Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-17 20:54 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 20/20] rcu: remove unused " Paul E. McKenney

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