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From: Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
To: Scott James Remnant <scott@netsplit.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] exit: PR_SET_ANCHOR for marking processes as reapers for  child processes
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:56:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101221095625.GA4438@tango.0pointer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik052sWOtqNyVdg6g6+cvo-NE-TBdSGdmmp_7en@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 20.12.10 14:26, Scott James Remnant (scott@netsplit.com) wrote:

> > This patch adds a simple flag for each process that marks it as an
> > "anchor" process for all its children and grandchildren. If a child of
> > such an anchor dies all its children will not be reparented to init, but
> > instead to this anchor, escaping this anchor process is not possible. A
> > task with this flag set hence acts is little "sub-init".
> >
> Why can't you simply begin a new pid namespace with the session
> manager or other process supervisor?  That way the session
> manager/process supervisor is for all intents and purposes an init
> daemon, so shouldn't be surprised about getting SIGCHLD.

PID namespaces primarily provide an independent PID numbering scheme for
a subset of processes, i.e. so that identical may PIDs refer to different
processes depending on the namespace they are running in. As a side
effect this also provides init-like behaviour for processes that aren't
the original PID 1 of the operating system. For systemd we are only
interested in this side effect, but are not interested at all in the
renumbering of processes, and in fact would even really dislike if it
happened. That's why PR_SET_ANCHOR is useful: it gives us init-like
behaviour without renaming all processes.

Lennart

-- 
Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-12-21  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-02 12:04 [PATCH] exit: PR_SET_ANCHOR for marking processes as reapers for child processes Lennart Poettering
2010-02-03  8:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-03  9:53   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-03 15:31 ` Américo Wang
2010-02-03 17:49   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-05  9:54     ` Américo Wang
2010-02-11 10:21       ` Kay Sievers
2010-02-04 15:42 ` Kay Sievers
2010-02-04 20:59   ` Kay Sievers
2010-03-04 14:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-04 22:14   ` Roland McGrath
2010-03-05 18:51     ` Kay Sievers
2010-03-05 19:18       ` Roland McGrath
2010-03-06  0:24         ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-09  0:45           ` Ray Lee
2010-03-09 13:19             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-06  0:20     ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-08 23:11       ` Roland McGrath
2010-03-05  4:47   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-05 18:55     ` Kay Sievers
2010-03-06  0:16   ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-11  4:14     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-11  7:56       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-20 14:26 ` Scott James Remnant
2010-12-20 14:51   ` Kay Sievers
2010-12-21  9:56   ` Lennart Poettering [this message]
2010-12-21 12:05     ` Scott James Remnant
2010-12-23 15:44       ` Lennart Poettering
2010-12-23 16:00         ` Scott James Remnant

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