From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Anton Blanchard <anton@au1.ibm.com>,
Tim Pepper <lnxninja@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/15] Nohz task support
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:01:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101221170108.GL1750@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D10B214.8010305@redhat.com>
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 03:56:36PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 12/21/2010 01:33 AM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> >On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:44:46AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 16:24 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> >> > The timer interrupt handles several things like preemption,
> >> > timekeeping, rcu, etc...
> >> >
> >> > However it appears that sometimes it is simply useless like
> >> > when a task runs alone and even more when it is in userspace
> >> > as RCU doesn't need it at all in such case.
> >> >
> >> > It appears that HPC workload would get some win of such timer
> >> > deactivation, and perhaps also the Real Time world as this
> >> > minimizes the critical sections due to way less interrupts to
> >> > handle.
> >> >
> >> > It works through the procfs interface:
> >> >
> >> > echo 1> /proc/self/nohz
> >>
> >> I wounder if we could just have this happen automatically.
> >
> >But this would add some global overhead, especially in the syscall
> >path as we need to take the slow path to hook userspace resume/exit.
>
> This is zero as there is already a test on thread_info->flags on the
> syscall exit path.
>
> (or I misunderstood you - what's the purpose of the slow path?)
Yes but on most cases threads don't have flags that route them to the
syscall slow path, which is to call syscall_trace_enter() and
syscall_trace_leave() as proxys. They call the syscall handler
directly.
But the nohz tasks must use a TIF_ flag that forces the syscall
slow path, which is where is the overhead. So if you wanted to
make that automatic for every task, you need to force the syscall
slow path on every tasks. And this is quite an overhead.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-21 17:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-20 15:24 [RFC PATCH 00/15] Nohz task support Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] nohz_task: New mask for cpus having nohz task Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-24 8:00 ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-12-24 8:19 ` Dario Faggioli
2010-12-24 12:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] nohz_task: Avoid nohz task cpu as non-idle timer target Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 16:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-20 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 0:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 0:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] nohz_task: Make tick stop and restart callable outside idle Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 16:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-20 16:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] nohz_task: Stop the tick when the nohz task runs alone Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 23:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 14:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-21 15:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] nohz_task: Restart the tick when another task compete on the cpu Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 23:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] nohz_task: Keep the tick if rcu needs it Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 23:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 0:12 ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-12-21 2:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] nohz_task: Restart tick when RCU forces nohz task cpu quiescent state Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 23:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 15:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] smp: Don't warn if irq are disabled but we don't wait for the ipi Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 0:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] rcu: Make rcu_enter,exit_nohz() callable from irq Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 19:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-21 19:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] nohz_task: Enter in extended quiescent state when in userspace Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 14:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-21 21:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-22 2:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] x86: Nohz task support Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 14:19 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 15:12 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] clocksource: Ignore nohz task cpu in clocksource watchdog Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] sched: Protect nohz task cpu affinity Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 17:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-21 1:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] nohz_task: Clear nohz task attribute on exit() Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 14:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] nohz_task: Procfs interface Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 15:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-21 17:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 18:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-21 21:08 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-22 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-22 9:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-22 20:41 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 14:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:44 ` [RFC PATCH 00/15] Nohz task support Steven Rostedt
2010-12-20 23:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 1:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-21 2:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 13:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-21 17:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2010-12-20 16:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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