From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Anton Blanchard <anton@au1.ibm.com>,
Tim Pepper <lnxninja@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 15/15] nohz_task: Procfs interface
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:41:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101222204100.GE1739@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1293011504.2170.76.camel@laptop>
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:51:44AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 11:22 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > > Makes sense. And that integrates well with Peter's idea of creating a
> > > new cpuset attribute for the nohz tasks.
> > >
> > > But instead of making this detection from the scheduler, I think this
> > > should be done from the tick: if there is only one task running, set
> > > it the TF flag.
> > >
> > > But anyway, that's an optimisation. We can start with setting that flag
> > > on every task in that cpuset.
> >
> > So long as we start without the new knob.
>
> Right, so one of the things we can do is let the tick disable itself
> when it finds there is no pending work left and set the TIF bit when
> needed.
Right.
Now I think about potential races. If a tick happens between the end of
the syscall path and the resume to userspace, it can set the TIF flag
but too late. So the task resumes userspace without beeing in an
extended QS.
No big deal though, it's easy to fixup.
Another possible race: a task runs alone with the flag. A new task gets enqueued
so we send the IPI. When the CPU receives the IPI, is "current" still the task
that was previously in nohz mode or the freshly enqueued one? When it's the
second case it becomes hard to clear the flag.
Probably I'll need to hook into the enqueue_task() path to fixup that.
> We should then also rate-limit things so as not to
> enable/disable the tick too often, but that would potentially allow us
> to do away with all knobs.
Right. Before I posted that, I actually had a minimum duration threshold of the tick.
Like, even if we can stop the tick, just wait x more ns, x beeing an abritrary constant.
But that was actually complicating the thing and I wasn't sure there was a real gain.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-22 20:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-20 15:24 [RFC PATCH 00/15] Nohz task support Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] nohz_task: New mask for cpus having nohz task Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-24 8:00 ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-12-24 8:19 ` Dario Faggioli
2010-12-24 12:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] nohz_task: Avoid nohz task cpu as non-idle timer target Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 16:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-20 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 0:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 0:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] nohz_task: Make tick stop and restart callable outside idle Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 16:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-20 16:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] nohz_task: Stop the tick when the nohz task runs alone Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 23:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 14:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-21 15:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] nohz_task: Restart the tick when another task compete on the cpu Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 23:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] nohz_task: Keep the tick if rcu needs it Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 23:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 0:12 ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-12-21 2:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] nohz_task: Restart tick when RCU forces nohz task cpu quiescent state Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 23:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 15:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] smp: Don't warn if irq are disabled but we don't wait for the ipi Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 0:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] rcu: Make rcu_enter,exit_nohz() callable from irq Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 19:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-21 19:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] nohz_task: Enter in extended quiescent state when in userspace Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 14:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-21 21:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-22 2:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] x86: Nohz task support Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 14:19 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 15:12 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] clocksource: Ignore nohz task cpu in clocksource watchdog Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] sched: Protect nohz task cpu affinity Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 17:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-21 1:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] nohz_task: Clear nohz task attribute on exit() Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 14:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] nohz_task: Procfs interface Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 15:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-21 17:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 18:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-21 21:08 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-22 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-22 9:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-22 20:41 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2010-12-21 14:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:44 ` [RFC PATCH 00/15] Nohz task support Steven Rostedt
2010-12-20 23:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 1:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-21 2:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 13:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-21 17:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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