From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Soeren Sandmann Pedersen <sandmann@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] x86: Fix rbp saving in pt_regs on irq entry
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:05:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110107160459.GA2751@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110107123130.GB20761@elte.hu>
On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 01:31:30PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com> wrote:
>
> > > Now I don't understand how this is all useful as this is not a normal proc but
> > > an interruption. We can't get back the return address from the CFA. Or am I
> > > missing something?
> >
> > Unwind annotations, when written correctly, allow unwinding through all kinds of
> > execution flows, including interrupts or exceptions as well as including stack
> > switches.
>
> Yeah and that's rather useful, as exception contexts can nest in very weird ways,
> especially with NMIs involved. For example a 7-context combination is possible:
>
> user-space -> syscall -> pagefault -> softirq -> hardirq -> debug trap -> NMI
>
> And the call frame walking logic needs to be able to get all the way back to
> user-space ...
>
> For that every transition needs to work flawlessly, for debugging (and CFI based
> profiling) to work fine.
>
> Most of those transitions can happen at any instruction boundary that a given
> context executes, so the total number of possible combinations is virtually endless.
>
> Unfortunately we dont seem to have a good way to test any of this automatically.
> Putting a perf probe on every assembly instruction perhaps, and checking whether the
> frame manages to go back all the way to user-space?
May be.
Once I'll have perf callchain based on CFI ready, we'll perhaps find some issues
there. Although I guess there are already tools that can make use of that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-07 16:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-06 14:51 [RFC GIT PULL] perf updates Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-06 14:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf: Build tools with frame pointer Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-07 15:31 ` [tip:perf/core] perf tools: Build " tip-bot for Frederic Weisbecker
[not found] ` <1294325513-14276-2-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com>
2011-01-06 15:18 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] x86: Fix rbp saving in pt_regs on irq entry Jan Beulich
2011-01-06 15:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-06 16:10 ` Jan Beulich
2011-01-06 16:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-06 16:39 ` Jan Beulich
2011-01-06 16:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-06 16:58 ` Jan Beulich
2011-01-06 17:12 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-06 17:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-07 7:45 ` Jan Beulich
2011-01-07 12:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-07 16:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2011-01-07 16:13 ` Jan Beulich
2011-01-07 16:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-07 16:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-07 17:17 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-07 16:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-07 14:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-07 12:23 ` [RFC GIT PULL] perf updates Ingo Molnar
2011-01-07 15:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-01-07 15:37 ` Ingo Molnar
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