From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/35] writeback: safety margin for bdi stat error
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:14:40 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110113041440.GC7840@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110112215949.GD14260@quack.suse.cz>
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 05:59:49AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Mon 13-12-10 22:46:48, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > In a simple dd test on a 8p system with "mem=256M", I find all light
> > dirtier tasks on the root fs are get heavily throttled. That happens
> > because the global limit is exceeded. It's unbelievable at first sight,
> > because the test fs doing the heavy dd is under its bdi limit. After
> > doing some tracing, it's discovered that
> >
> > bdi_dirty < bdi_dirty_limit() < global_dirty_limit() < nr_dirty
> ^^ bdi_dirty is the number of pages dirtied on BDI? I.e.
> bdi_nr_reclaimable + bdi_nr_writeback?
Yes.
> > So the root cause is, the bdi_dirty is well under the global nr_dirty
> > due to accounting errors. This can be fixed by using bdi_stat_sum(),
> So which statistic had the big error? I'd just like to understand
> this (and how come your patch improves the situation)...
bdi_stat_error() = nr_cpu_ids * BDI_STAT_BATCH
= 8 * (8*(1+ilog2(8)))
= 8 * 8 * 4
= 256 pages
= 1MB
> > however that's costly on large NUMA machines. So do a less costly fix
> > of lowering the bdi limit, so that the accounting errors won't lead to
> > the absurd situation "global limit exceeded but bdi limit not exceeded".
> >
> > This provides guarantee when there is only 1 heavily dirtied bdi, and
> > works by opportunity for 2+ heavy dirtied bdi's (hopefully they won't
> > reach big error _and_ exceed their bdi limit at the same time).
> >
> ...
> > @@ -458,6 +464,14 @@ unsigned long bdi_dirty_limit(struct bac
> > long numerator, denominator;
> >
> > /*
> > + * try to prevent "global limit exceeded but bdi limit not exceeded"
> > + */
> > + if (likely(dirty > bdi_stat_error(bdi)))
> > + dirty -= bdi_stat_error(bdi);
> > + else
> > + return 0;
> > +
> Ugh, so if by any chance global_dirty_limit() <= bdi_stat_error(bdi), you
> will limit number of unreclaimable pages for that bdi 0? Why?
Good catch! Yeah it may lead to regressions and should be voided.
Thanks,
Fengguang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-13 4:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-13 14:46 [PATCH 00/35] IO-less dirty throttling v4 Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 01/35] writeback: enabling gate limit for light dirtied bdi Wu Fengguang
2011-01-12 21:43 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20110113034401.GB7840@localhost>
2011-01-13 3:58 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-13 19:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-14 3:21 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 02/35] writeback: safety margin for bdi stat error Wu Fengguang
2011-01-12 21:59 ` Jan Kara
2011-01-13 4:14 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2011-01-13 10:38 ` Jan Kara
2011-01-13 10:41 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 03/35] writeback: prevent duplicate balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() calls Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 04/35] writeback: reduce per-bdi dirty threshold ramp up time Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 13:37 ` Richard Kennedy
2010-12-14 13:59 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:33 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:39 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-14 15:15 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 15:26 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-15 18:48 ` Richard Kennedy
2010-12-17 13:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 05/35] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 06/35] writeback: consolidate variable names in balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 07/35] writeback: per-task rate limit on balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 08/35] writeback: user space think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 09/35] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated written pages Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 10/35] writeback: bdi write bandwidth estimation Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 11/35] writeback: show bdi write bandwidth in debugfs Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 12/35] writeback: scale down max throttle bandwidth on concurrent dirtiers Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 1:21 ` Yan, Zheng
2010-12-14 7:00 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 13:00 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 13/35] writeback: bdi base throttle bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 14/35] writeback: smoothed bdi dirty pages Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 15/35] writeback: adapt max balance pause time to memory size Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 16/35] writeback: increase min pause time on concurrent dirtiers Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 18:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-14 6:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 18:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-14 18:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-14 20:13 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-14 20:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-14 20:37 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 17/35] writeback: quit throttling when bdi dirty pages dropped low Wu Fengguang
2010-12-16 5:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 18/35] writeback: start background writeback earlier Wu Fengguang
2010-12-16 5:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 19/35] writeback: make nr_to_write a per-file limit Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 20/35] writeback: scale IO chunk size up to device bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 21/35] writeback: trace balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 22/35] writeback: trace global dirty page states Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 2:19 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 3:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 6:52 ` Hugh Dickins
2010-12-17 9:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 11:21 ` [PATCH] writeback: skip balance_dirty_pages() for in-memory fs Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 14:21 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-17 15:34 ` Minchan Kim
2010-12-17 15:42 ` Minchan Kim
2010-12-21 5:59 ` Hugh Dickins
2010-12-21 9:39 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-30 3:15 ` Hugh Dickins
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 23/35] writeback: trace writeback_single_inode() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 24/35] btrfs: dont call balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() on already dirty pages Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 25/35] btrfs: lower the dirty balacing rate limit Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 26/35] btrfs: wait on too many nr_async_bios Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 27/35] nfs: livelock prevention is now done in VFS Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 28/35] nfs: writeback pages wait queue Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 29/35] nfs: in-commit pages accounting and " Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 21:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-14 15:40 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 15:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-15 15:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 30/35] nfs: heuristics to avoid commit Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 20:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-14 8:20 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 31/35] nfs: dont change wbc->nr_to_write in write_inode() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 21:01 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-14 15:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 32/35] nfs: limit the range of commits Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 33/35] nfs: adapt congestion threshold to dirty threshold Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 34/35] nfs: trace nfs_commit_unstable_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 35/35] nfs: trace nfs_commit_release() Wu Fengguang
[not found] ` <AANLkTinFeu7LMaDFgUcP3r2oqVHE5bei3T5JTPGBNvS9@mail.gmail.com>
2010-12-14 4:59 ` [PATCH 00/35] IO-less dirty throttling v4 Wu Fengguang
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