From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752430Ab1APXTK (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:19:10 -0500 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:58901 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751254Ab1APXTH (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:19:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 23:19:01 +0000 From: Al Viro To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Stefan Richter , "Nicholas A. Bellinger" , linux-kernel , linux-scsi , linux-fsdevel , Joel Becker , Randy Dunlap , James Bottomley Subject: Re: [PATCH] configfs: change depends -> select SYSFS Message-ID: <20110116231901.GF22723@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <1295125851-25279-1-git-send-email-nab@linux-iscsi.org> <20110116141105.59e5b3a2@stein> <1295214807.22813.57.camel@haakon2.linux-iscsi.org> <20110117000659.57352da7@stein> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 03:11:57PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Why the hell should a OCFS2 user have to know that he needs to enable > configfs to be able to enable ocfs2? > > The thing is, we should do exactly the reverse of what you say, and > work towards the goal of "depends on" going away. Right now, the main > reason to use "depends on" is actually just that our Kconfig solvers > are stupid, and don't generally handle "select" very well. But that's > hopefully getting fixed. How do you eliminate things like "it really depends on having DMA"? When we configure e.g. s390 or uml kernel, it's not like we could enable a PCI driver and have architecture magically switch to a PCI-supporting one, after all...