public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: oleg@redhat.com, jan.kratochvil@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET RFC] ptrace,signal: clean transition between STOPPED and TRACED
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:41:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110131154117.GK7459@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110128204030.52D31183C1E@magilla.sf.frob.com>

Hello,

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:40:30PM -0800, Roland McGrath wrote:
> > Okay, just finished ran make check with and without the patchset.
> > Without the patchset, 2.6.38-rc2 failed five tests.  
> 
> Hmm.  I didn't think we were in that poor a state, but it has been quite a
> while since I looked.  I wonder if that's a regression from a few releases
> back, or what.  Oleg and Jan should know better than I do about the state
> of these tests.

Also, the first test of xcheck seems to enter infinite loop.

> > With the patchset six.  The one extra test which failed was
> > attach-sigcont-wait because the tracee now always enters TRACED after
> > PTRACE_ATTACH, which I think is the correct behavior because the previous
> > behavior where a stopped task honors SIGCONT unconditionally if it was
> > delivered before the next ptrace call (any operation other than detach)
> > doesn't make any sense to me in addition to the fact that it was buggy
> > regarding the arch hook.
> 
> Well, I can't say I'm at all sure I agree with your assessment about that.
> But we can investigate further before I make any particular assertions.
> 
> > Is there an actual use case which requires this behavior?  We can try
> > to emulate the original behavior but I don't think it's a sane one.
> 
> Most of those cases were added when Jan ran into a particular problem while
> working on GDB, and some of them from issues that arose with ptrace.  Jan
> is probably the person who knows best about the requirements each test was
> meant to verify.

Jan, do you care to chime in?

> > Another difference was how stopped-detach-sleeping failed.  It failed
> > both with and without the patchset but with the patchset it triggered
> > an assert().  The difference was because the assert() was testing
> > whether the task was in STOPPED state after attach - it's now in
> > TRACED state instead.  With the assert removed, it failed the same
> > way.
> 
> This is probably something that can change in the test.  I think some of
> those /proc/pid/status checks in the tests were either just to match
> expectations based on manifest kernel behavior, but they might also have
> been because it really did matter somehow and it was just easier to discern
> that way than to write a test that reliably found the important race
> condition or whatever it was.  So again we need Jan to help us understand
> the intent of the test and the specific GDB requirements it represents.

I see.  Yeah, if there are users which expect /proc/pid/status to be
certain value, we can either emulate it or delay TRACED transition to
the next PTRACE call *after* ATTACH/wait(2) sequence, but I think both
are quite ugly and would like to avoid if at all possible.

Thank you.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-31 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-24 14:00 [PATCHSET RFC] ptrace,signal: clean transition between STOPPED and TRACED Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 1/7] clone: kill CLONE_STOPPED Tejun Heo
2011-01-17 22:17   ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-27 13:13     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 2/7] ptrace: add @why to ptrace_stop() Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 3/7] signal: fix premature completion of group stop when interfered by ptrace Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 4/7] signal: use GROUP_STOP_PENDING to stop once for a single group stop Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 5/7] ptrace: participate in group stop from ptrace_stop() iff the task is trapping for " Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 6/7] ptrace: make do_signal_stop() use ptrace_stop() if the task is being ptraced Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 7/7] ptrace: clean transitions between TASK_STOPPED and TRACED Tejun Heo
2011-01-05 16:35   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-09 22:05     ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 16:03       ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-01-12 13:23 ` [PATCHSET RFC] ptrace,signal: clean transition between STOPPED " Tejun Heo
2011-01-12 18:10   ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-12 21:43 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-01-13 15:05   ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 15:51   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-18  2:11 ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-27 13:23   ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-28 21:06     ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-18  2:14 ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-27 15:46   ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-27 17:48     ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-28 20:40       ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-31 15:41         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2011-01-31 15:54           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-31 16:07             ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-01 10:35               ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-02  5:39           ` Roland McGrath

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20110131154117.GK7459@htj.dyndns.org \
    --to=tj@kernel.org \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=jan.kratochvil@redhat.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=oleg@redhat.com \
    --cc=roland@redhat.com \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox