From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: oleg@redhat.com, jan.kratochvil@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET RFC] ptrace,signal: clean transition between STOPPED and TRACED
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:41:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110131154117.GK7459@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110128204030.52D31183C1E@magilla.sf.frob.com>
Hello,
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:40:30PM -0800, Roland McGrath wrote:
> > Okay, just finished ran make check with and without the patchset.
> > Without the patchset, 2.6.38-rc2 failed five tests.
>
> Hmm. I didn't think we were in that poor a state, but it has been quite a
> while since I looked. I wonder if that's a regression from a few releases
> back, or what. Oleg and Jan should know better than I do about the state
> of these tests.
Also, the first test of xcheck seems to enter infinite loop.
> > With the patchset six. The one extra test which failed was
> > attach-sigcont-wait because the tracee now always enters TRACED after
> > PTRACE_ATTACH, which I think is the correct behavior because the previous
> > behavior where a stopped task honors SIGCONT unconditionally if it was
> > delivered before the next ptrace call (any operation other than detach)
> > doesn't make any sense to me in addition to the fact that it was buggy
> > regarding the arch hook.
>
> Well, I can't say I'm at all sure I agree with your assessment about that.
> But we can investigate further before I make any particular assertions.
>
> > Is there an actual use case which requires this behavior? We can try
> > to emulate the original behavior but I don't think it's a sane one.
>
> Most of those cases were added when Jan ran into a particular problem while
> working on GDB, and some of them from issues that arose with ptrace. Jan
> is probably the person who knows best about the requirements each test was
> meant to verify.
Jan, do you care to chime in?
> > Another difference was how stopped-detach-sleeping failed. It failed
> > both with and without the patchset but with the patchset it triggered
> > an assert(). The difference was because the assert() was testing
> > whether the task was in STOPPED state after attach - it's now in
> > TRACED state instead. With the assert removed, it failed the same
> > way.
>
> This is probably something that can change in the test. I think some of
> those /proc/pid/status checks in the tests were either just to match
> expectations based on manifest kernel behavior, but they might also have
> been because it really did matter somehow and it was just easier to discern
> that way than to write a test that reliably found the important race
> condition or whatever it was. So again we need Jan to help us understand
> the intent of the test and the specific GDB requirements it represents.
I see. Yeah, if there are users which expect /proc/pid/status to be
certain value, we can either emulate it or delay TRACED transition to
the next PTRACE call *after* ATTACH/wait(2) sequence, but I think both
are quite ugly and would like to avoid if at all possible.
Thank you.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-31 15:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-24 14:00 [PATCHSET RFC] ptrace,signal: clean transition between STOPPED and TRACED Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 1/7] clone: kill CLONE_STOPPED Tejun Heo
2011-01-17 22:17 ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-27 13:13 ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 2/7] ptrace: add @why to ptrace_stop() Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 3/7] signal: fix premature completion of group stop when interfered by ptrace Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 4/7] signal: use GROUP_STOP_PENDING to stop once for a single group stop Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 5/7] ptrace: participate in group stop from ptrace_stop() iff the task is trapping for " Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 6/7] ptrace: make do_signal_stop() use ptrace_stop() if the task is being ptraced Tejun Heo
2010-12-24 14:00 ` [PATCH 7/7] ptrace: clean transitions between TASK_STOPPED and TRACED Tejun Heo
2011-01-05 16:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-09 22:05 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 16:03 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-01-12 13:23 ` [PATCHSET RFC] ptrace,signal: clean transition between STOPPED " Tejun Heo
2011-01-12 18:10 ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-12 21:43 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-01-13 15:05 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 15:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-18 2:11 ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-27 13:23 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-28 21:06 ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-18 2:14 ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-27 15:46 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-27 17:48 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-28 20:40 ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-31 15:41 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2011-01-31 15:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-31 16:07 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-01 10:35 ` Tejun Heo
2011-02-02 5:39 ` Roland McGrath
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