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From: Andres Salomon <dilinger@queued.net>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Daniel Drake <dsd@laptop.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sodaville@linutronix.de,
	x86@kernel.org, dirk.brandewie@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/15] x86/e820: remove conditional early mapping in parse_e820_ext
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:40:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110203104051.12cdfbe5@queued.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=kXaD0qhpHx30tFKN92pmAESSrXE1mz_55yuQO@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:10:13 -0700
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Andres Salomon <dilinger@queued.net>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:21:22 +0100
> > Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >
> >> Daniel Drake wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> > Context: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/450681/
> >> >
> >> > This patch will indeed cause problems for OLPC. Thanks for
> >> > bringing it to our attention.
> >> >
> >> > On OLPC, the device tree is not used as a source of devices like
> >> > on other platforms, it is simply used to present information to
> >> > the kernel and userspace (in read-only fashion).
> >> >
> >> > If I understand it correctly, the above patch is saying: if we
> >> > have a device tree, don't add the standard x86 RTC device.
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> > However, what we need it to say is: if we have a device tree
> >> > *and* the device tree is being used as a source of devices,
> >> > don't add the standard x86 RTC device.
> >> >
> >> > Therefore in the OLPC case, this particular bail-out condition
> >> > will never be met, because the device tree is not being used as
> >> > a source of devices.
> >> So it is not case now. Will it ever be?
> >>
> >
> > That is unclear.  For now, it's not, and there aren't plans to make
> > it so.
> >
> >> >
> >> > Does that make sense?
> >>
> >> I don't quite get how or what for do you use the device tree. Could
> >> you please answer me the following questions:
> >> - is the variable allnodes NULL in your case?
> >
> > No.
> >
> >> - variable initial_boot_params should be NULL in your case, right?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> >> - how should I checked for "device tree is being used as a source
> >> of devices"? The nodes on in the device tree are not probed unless
> >> one calls of_platform_bus_probe() with a few ids. However I do
> >> this now unconditionally which is not a problem unless you have a
> >> device tree ...
> >
> > Perhaps it should be specifically checking for a fdt (by way of
> > initial_boot_params)?   Sparc also does not have
> > initial_boot_params, so one might even be able to drop an #ifdef in
> > the process.
> 
> OLPC is very much the oddball in this case.  Everyone else uses
> devicetree for registering devices.  It could be solved by making OLPC
> explicitly register the RTC.
> 
> g.
> 

That's actually what the plan is; the code just depends on PM features,
which is still being worked on.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-03 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-17 15:33 Add device tree support for x86, v2 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 01/15] x86/e820: remove conditional early mapping in parse_e820_ext Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-30  8:37   ` Grant Likely
2011-01-04 13:08     ` [PATCH v2 " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-14  8:14       ` Grant Likely
2011-01-14 10:57         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-14 21:43           ` Andres Salomon
2011-01-27 19:54             ` Daniel Drake
2011-02-01 13:21               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-02-01 18:36                 ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-02  3:10                   ` Grant Likely
2011-02-02 16:22                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-02-03 18:40                     ` Andres Salomon [this message]
2011-02-03 19:44                       ` [sodaville] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-03 20:09                         ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-03 20:16                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-03 20:39                             ` Andres Salomon
2011-02-03 21:04                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-02-02 18:59               ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 02/15] x86: Add device tree support Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-30  8:43   ` Grant Likely
2010-12-30 21:01     ` Grant Likely
2011-01-02  0:40       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-03 12:20     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-03 18:05       ` [sodaville] " H. Peter Anvin
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 03/15] x86/dtb: Add a device tree for CE4100 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-30  8:51   ` Grant Likely
2011-01-03 11:28     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-03 17:45       ` Grant Likely
2011-01-05  9:48         ` [PATCH v2 " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-05 10:01     ` [PATCH " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-05 23:20     ` David Gibson
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 04/15] x86/dtb: add irq domain abstraction Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-11 22:03   ` Grant Likely
2011-01-23 13:06     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 05/15] x86/dtb: add early parsing of APIC and IO APIC Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-30  8:54   ` Grant Likely
2011-01-04 13:23     ` [PATCH v2 " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-11 22:14       ` Grant Likely
2011-01-18 14:56         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 06/15] x86/dtb: add support hpet Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-11 22:26   ` Grant Likely
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 07/15] of: move of_irq_map_pci() into generic code Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-17 21:16   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-04 14:27     ` [PATCH v2 " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-11 23:27       ` Grant Likely
2011-01-12 18:21         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 08/15] x86/dtb: add support for PCI devices backed by dtb nodes Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-11 23:47   ` Grant Likely
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 09/15] x86/dtb: Add generic bus probe Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-11 23:48   ` Grant Likely
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 10/15] x86/ioapic: Add OF bindings for IO-APIC Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-11 23:53   ` Grant Likely
2011-01-12 17:07     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-12 17:19       ` [sodaville] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-01-13 10:38         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 11/15] x86/ce4100: use OF for ioapic Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-11 23:54   ` Grant Likely
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 12/15] of/address: use propper endianess in get_flags Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-30  9:05   ` Grant Likely
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 13/15] x86/rtc: don't register rtc if we have an OF node for it Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-30  8:59   ` Grant Likely
2011-01-04 13:28     ` [PATCH v2 13/15] x86/rtc: don't register rtc if we the DT blob Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-12  0:02       ` Grant Likely
2011-01-12 18:29         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-14 22:16           ` Grant Likely
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 14/15] rtc/cmos: add OF bindings Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-01-12  0:04   ` Grant Likely
2011-01-13 10:50     ` [PATCH v2] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2010-12-17 15:33 ` [PATCH 15/15] x86/pci: remove warning Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2011-02-18 16:06   ` [tip:x86/platform] x86/pci: Remove unused variable tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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